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IDEAL blue wire nuts are rated for al to cu . what makes them different a normal wire nut with noalox on it ? ( are they ul listed )
 
timmermeier said:
IDEAL blue wire nuts are rated for al to cu . what makes them different a normal wire nut with noalox on it ? ( are they ul listed )
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This Ideal document says otherwise, and this one says the same.

Sorry, I responded based on the color blue and not the part number. That part number is for their purple wire nut. My understanding is that the spring is different in the purple wire nut. The purple is listed for copper to copper and copper to aluminum, but not for aluminum to aluminum. It is also a one time use wire connector as the instructions say not to re-use it.
 
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LarryFine said:
What if you add a capped-off copper pigtail? Are there al-to-al wirenuts?
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I guess that would be a copper to aluminum connection. The conductor list shows combinations of two aluminum with one copper.
I don't think there are any wire nuts marked as suitable for aluminum to aluminum connections.
 
tortuga said:
Did I miss national aluminum wire week or something? Lots of aluminum wire threads lately.
I also posted this in another thread, I'd look into one of these power crimp tools
its like a mini version of what linemen use:
https://www.te.com/usa-en/products/...ing-tools/intersection/retermination-kit.html

Seems like less box space wasted and then you have copper pigtails.
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I saw that on aluminum nmb post. Most alum in homes I come across you can’t pull the wire out enough to get that to work
 
AC\DC said:
I saw that on aluminum nmb post. Most alum in homes I come across you can’t pull the wire out enough to get that to work
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Yeah its unfortunate when the 6" of wire in a box 'rule' was treated more like a suggestion, and if your dealing with a manufactured home its even worse when the box is 8 cubic inches or whatever they got away with.
Do you often see 12-10 AWG aluminum in homes other than manufactured / mobile homes ?
 
tortuga said:
Yeah its unfortunate when the 6" of wire in a box 'rule' was treated more like a suggestion, and if your dealing with a manufactured home its even worse when the box is 8 cubic inches or whatever they got away with.
Do you often see 12-10 AWG aluminum in homes other than manufactured / mobile homes ?
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Only ever seen in mobile homes. Never in a manufactured homes, its alway's in single wide trailers park.
 
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