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Alwayslearningelec

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If your bidding a job and your allowed conduits in the slab would you bid it that way which would equate to a labor savings or would you bid installing overhead , with chance of being high and not getting job?
 
In the slab can save you some money in labor but it requires more precision by the engineer and layout man. We run as much as we can in the slab.
 
In the slab can save you some money in labor but it requires more precision by the engineer and layout man. We run as much as we can in the slab.
When do you guys use a dedicated layout guy? The layout should not be for the entire duration of the job so he/she would then be working or supervising at some point?
 
Must be a regional thing, they spec rigid? Some don’t want anything in the slab other than the service due frequent saw cutting for things such as theft prevention devices.
RGS and EMT. They often ask to X-ray the concrete prior to trenching/cutting of slab.
 
RGS and EMT. They often ask to X-ray the concrete prior to trenching/cutting of slab.
That doesn’t always work! I had a Lowes that was built on a landfill, the compaction was apparently not done very well, and they were having hollow pockets under the slab inside the store. They brought in a big drill coring through the slab at different places. They supposedly x ray everywhere they were coring, but cored through a fire pump feed about 24” down directly off the utility side of the gear! The manager said the operators shut off the machine and walked away. Had to replace the entire gear. I was able to repair the conduit and repull the feed. Big track machine like you see when they core for roadways.
 
When do you guys use a dedicated layout guy? The layout should not be for the entire duration of the job so he/she would then be working or supervising at some point?
Depends on the job. For a big deck job like our current 60 story building the layout man will spend a year or so working with the deck crew doing layout. In between he may do other tasks depending on the schedule and progression of the job. On other jobs the layout guy may be a sub-foreman too.
 
We can’t put pvc in slab within the footprint of building. Always a spec thing!
We did a LEEDS job and they specified rigid because it can be recycled and PVC can't...at least that is what the engineers told us when we submitted a value engineering cost for using PVC.
 
If your bidding a job and your allowed conduits in the slab would you bid it that way which would equate to a labor savings or would you bid installing overhead , with chance of being high and not getting job?
You should take it off, as close to how you will run it as possible. Then you should estimate it with accurate pricing and labor cost. Then you should bid it to make money and trying to be as high as you can be while still getting the job. Part of my point is, you estimate a job, then you bid it base on the results of the estimate along with many other factors.
 
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