Inground Pool Bonding

[Ed Carr]

Just did the rough in of a new inground pool. The pool itself is plastic walls with a vinyl liner. I ran my #8 to the rebar grid which will be under concrete and hit the wet niche,ladder,diving board,hand rail at steps,pump and heater. I also jumpered the aluminum coping all the way around and hit the grid at each end. I then ran a #8 to the panel bonded to the grid. What would be the pros /cons to grounding to the panel. I believe the code does not require it but any thoughts? Thanks, Ed

 

[Cavie]

Code does not require it but it happens thru the #12 groung to the pump cause the #8 is also connected to the pump. Also the heater. I tell them to not run the #8 to the panel cause it is not stated in the code.

 

[rcarroll]

At the price of copper now, bonding to the panel just adds to the cost.

 

[e2me2]

Just did the rough in of a new inground pool. The pool itself is plastic walls with a vinyl liner. I ran my #8 to the rebar grid which will be under concrete and hit the wet niche,ladder,diving board,hand rail at steps,pump and heater. I also jumpered the aluminum coping all the way around and hit the grid at each end. I then ran a #8 to the panel bonded to the grid. What would be the pros /cons to grounding to the panel. I believe the code does not require it but any thoughts? Thanks, Ed

Had the same thought on the last one I did seemed strange to make this huge loop and grid and then not connect it to the panel feeding everything OUR AHJ told me I could not connect it

 

[stickboy1375]

Had the same thought on the last one I did seemed strange to make this huge loop and grid and then not connect it to the panel feeding everything OUR AHJ told me I could not connect it

thats because your not grounding the pool area you are BONDING it...I cannot beleive this subject is still a mystery, so much for all that continuing education

 

[Cavie]

I also tell them not to bond to the pool panel, BUT, in fact it is done thru the #8 bond from the steel to the light shell to the light j-box and back to the panel on the #12 green insulated ground wire for the light. Sorry, it's just another one of those NEC screw up's.

 

[stickboy1375]

I also tell them not to bond to the pool panel, BUT, in fact it is done thru the #8 bond from the steel to the light shell to the light j-box and back to the panel on the #12 green insulated ground wire for the light. Sorry, it's just another one of those NEC screw up's.

it's not a screw up, people just don't understand the difference...

 

[mdshunk]

If you feel the overwhelming need to run your bond to the pool panel, feel free to do so. It is not NEC required, adds no extra margin of safety to the pool, and is a waste of material. It does not create a hazard by any means, except to the bottom line. I'm not sure why e2me2's inspector made him remove one, since it creates no hazard and is "above code" as one author is fond of saying.

 

[stickboy1375]

If you feel the overwhelming need to run your bond to the pool panel, feel free to do so. It is not NEC required, adds no extra margin of safety to the pool, and is a waste of material. It does not create a hazard by any means, except to the bottom line. I'm not sure why e2me2's inspector made him remove one, since it creates no hazard and is "above code" as one author is fond of saying.

I usually only wire inground pools and I always install a pool panel with the equipment, its always easier than piping the pool lights back to the house panel... plus makes future pool equipment a snap to install....

1 question though, does anybody know why the cord on a pump is limited to 3ft. in length? I already have to have the outlet 5' away so why the cord 3'???