Inspector crazy or me?

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LarryFine said:
I say that, if the box isn't supporting the fixture, its fixture rating is not relevant. The exception need not apply because the rule doesn't.
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That is my thought, but then more recently they messed with that concept when it comes to paddle fan rated boxes being required in some situations even if a paddle fan isn't going to be installed. Nothing wrong with supporting those separate from the box either - or at least never was before:slaphead:

Supporting from box may be more convenient but not an absolute must do it that way.
 
Coppersmith said:
I'm not sure which question you are referring to. The only question I see that is related is "Is this structurally sound enough to mount a vanity sconce on". Since the question was not answered by the manufacturer but instead by a bunch of random people I don't take the answers as authoritative.
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Agree.
 
I assume they are furring out the wall. How far will that be. An octagon box on the block may work If sheetrock is being glued to the block the a pancake box would work
 
Coppersmith said:
Inspector's comment: "the vanity box is not rated for fixtures"
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growler said:
Did he fail the inspection or did he just make a comment ?
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Coppersmith said:
He failed the inspection.
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I agree that I probably wouldn't use a plastic switch box for a sconce vanity light because people tend to buy the biggest gaudiest piece of crap they can find for the vanity ( with three heads ).

But how does the inspector know that you are not going to use a bar light in which case this would be just as good as any other.

Many times on new construction there will not be any box mounted for rough-in inspection because the exact center of the vanity is unknown. So there is just a little extra cable left in the wall and then an old works box box and a bar light used.
 
growler said:
I agree that I probably wouldn't use a plastic switch box for a sconce vanity light because people tend to buy the biggest gaudiest piece of crap they can find for the vanity ( with three heads ).

But how does the inspector know that you are not going to use a bar light in which case this would be just as good as any other.

Many times on new construction there will not be any box mounted for rough-in inspection because the exact center of the vanity is unknown. So there is just a little extra cable left in the wall and then an old works box box and a bar light used.
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So true, so true.
 
ptonsparky said:
I believe so and IDR when they added the 6-32 and 6# rule.

How many any of us weigh those fixtures?
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Cheap fixtures from big box stores are not that heavy.

Many quality fixtures aren't really that heavy these days either - they aren't the quality they were years ago though.
 
Ok. So I have the answer. The fixture to be installed is 4.5 lbs. The new inspection is tomorrow. The GC will be escorting the inspector and I have armed him with the appropriate code section. Now I'm expecting him to say "how do I know they won't put a heavier one on later". I told the GC to remind the inspector he can only base his inspection on what we do, not what we could do.

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Coppersmith said:
Ok. So I have the answer. The fixture to be installed is 4.5 lbs. The new inspection is tomorrow. The GC will be escorting the inspector and I have armed him with the appropriate code section. Now I'm expecting him to say "how do I know they won't put a heavier one on later". I told the GC to remind the inspector he can only base his inspection on what we do, not what we could do.

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How'd it go?
 
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