Interlock with 2 panels

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frofro19

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Is there any known issues with supplying 2 panels from one portable generator using interlock kits in both panels? Would be a 30 amp breaker in both panels with interlock kits and both sets of conductors connected to a 30 amp inlet box. Read a brief article where someone said that shouldn't be done as there could be neutral problems. He didn't state what the neutral problems may be but was just wondering if I'm missing something.
 

brantmacga

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No issue in that setup.

Neutral issues could be if the generator has a bonded neutral & gfci, it’ll trip.


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frofro19

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The interlock kit would prevent the main breaker and the generator breaker from being on at the same time.
 

jaggedben

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The only potential fluky issue I see is if there's any improper parallel connection between circuits in the two panels. Like, two hots from different breakers in different panels connected to the same load. The sort of thing I've seen a couple times in buildings with multiple generations of old and sketchy wiring.

If there were a fluke like that then you risk connecting the generator to the grid if one interlock is switched over and the other is not.

Just something to think about checking first if you have any reason to doubt the quality of the building wiring.
 

letgomywago

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The only potential fluky issue I see is if there's any improper parallel connection between circuits in the two panels. Like, two hots from different breakers in different panels connected to the same load. The sort of thing I've seen a couple times in buildings with multiple generations of old and sketchy wiring.

If there were a fluke like that then you risk connecting the generator to the grid if one interlock is switched over and the other is not.

Just something to think about checking first if you have any reason to doubt the quality of the building wiring.
That should be a quick test though. Throw off one main at a time and check the bus bar with all the breakers on other than the main.
 

synchro

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I think it would be better to have an inlet for each panel. With one generator you'd need to split into two input cables using an external junction box or other means.

The reason I mention this is that with one inlet feeding both panels, you will be joining the neutral bars of both panels together even when the generator is not being used. And probably with 10 AWG wire. It will still work, but there will be some adverse current flow, most importantly when the POCO is supplying power. And I'm sure this will be an NEC violation in the installation.

Joining the neutrals of two input cables will not be part of the installation. And in any case it will only be subject to a limited current if the cables are only connected when using the generator.

Also, two inlets will allow two generators to be used if/when available.
 
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LarryFine

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I've done it, telling them to always switch both panels over before starting and plugging in the genny.

The combined neutrals will effectively form a parallel between the two neutral buses, like two GECs do.
 

Jpflex

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I think it would be better to have an inlet for each panel. With one generator you'd need to split into two input cables using an external junction box or other means.

The reason I mention this is that with one inlet feeding both panels, you will be joining the neutral bars of both panels together even when the generator is not being used. And probably with 10 AWG wire. It will still work, but there will be some adverse current flow, most importantly when the POCO is supplying power. And I'm sure this will be an NEC violation in the installation.

Joining the neutrals of two input cables will not be part of the installation. And in any case it will only be subject to a limited current if the cables are only connected when using the generator.

Also, two inlets will allow two generators to be used if/when available.

What is poco?
 
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frofro19

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Wouldn't the exact same thing be going on with (2) (200 amp) ATS feeding (2) panels being feed from a Generac 22 KW generator? The neutrals are not being switched in that case as well. I don't believe most homeowners would be willing to buy (2) portable generators IMO.
 

synchro

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Wouldn't the exact same thing be going on with (2) (200 amp) ATS feeding (2) panels being feed from a Generac 22 KW generator? The neutrals are not being switched in that case as well.

In that case, you are paralleling the neutral bars of 2 panels with much larger conductors than when wiring a common inlet to a portable generator (which might use 10 AWG for example). And so if a connection feeding a neutral bar gets compromised, more current may flow through the 10 AWG than it's rated for (it would depend on the resistance through the intervening equipment ground).
 

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In that case, you are paralleling the neutral bars of 2 panels with much larger conductors than when wiring a common inlet to a portable generator (which might use 10 AWG for example). And so if a connection feeding a neutral bar gets compromised, more current may flow through the 10 AWG than it's rated for (it would depend on the resistance through the intervening equipment ground).
While your scenario is possible, is it something that would require a different installation? Many things can go disastrously wrong if you loose a neutral.
 

synchro

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What makes me sensitive to this issue is that I'm aware of a bus that burned up because a smaller ground jumper had to take all of the load of the electric HVAC when the main one intended for the load got loose. This was a DC application, but the same principles apply.
 

synchro

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What makes me sensitive to this issue is that I'm aware of a bus that burned up because a smaller ground jumper had to take all of the load of the electric HVAC when the main one intended for the load got loose. This was a DC application, but the same principles apply.

Oh. I should mentioned that the bus that burned up was not in a panel, but had wheels on it. :)
 
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