brycenesbitt
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Article 409 covers "industrial panelboards". What's it really trying to do? Table 409.3 has a very specific list:
And a few more.
Not on this list are:
So what am I to make of that? If an industrial panelboard contains branch circuits for my pipe organ is the design free, or is it additionally governed by NEC Article 650? If I'm doing Luminaires are the internals dual regualted?
Is this article an attempt to dual regulate industrial panel board internals (e.g. UL plus NEC)?
If so why only for those specific areas of pratice?
I did find one history article that claimed Article 409 was a reaction to sloppy SCCR / AIC calculations in field use of ICP's:
On the ground Article 409 seems to cover much of the same ground ICP's do anyway, except with stricter wire bend ratios.
409.3 Other Articles
In addition to the requirements of Article 409, industrial control panels that contain branch circuits for specific loads or components, or are for control of specific types of equipment addressed in other articles of this Code, shall be constructed and installed in accordance with the applicable requirements from the specific articles in Table 409.3.
Table 409.3 Other Articles
Branch circuits 210Luminaires 410Motors, motor circuits, and controllers 430Air-conditioning and refrigerating equipment 440Capacitors 460.8, 460.9Hazardous (classified) locations 500, 501, 502, 503, 504, 505Commercial garages; aircraft hangars; motor fuel dispensing facilities; bulk storage plants; spray application, dipping, and coating processes; and inhalation anesthetizing locations 511, 513, 514, 515, 516, and 517 Part IVCranes and hoists 610....
And a few more.
Not on this list are:
- Lighting controllers (unless that's what's meant by Luminaries)
- Pool controllers (Unless that gets under pumps)
- Pipe Organs
- Injection facilities that are "non-anesthetizing"
- Fueling stations
- Solar Photovoltaic (PV) & Energy Storage
- .... and thousands of other applications....
So what am I to make of that? If an industrial panelboard contains branch circuits for my pipe organ is the design free, or is it additionally governed by NEC Article 650? If I'm doing Luminaires are the internals dual regualted?
Is this article an attempt to dual regulate industrial panel board internals (e.g. UL plus NEC)?
If so why only for those specific areas of pratice?
I did find one history article that claimed Article 409 was a reaction to sloppy SCCR / AIC calculations in field use of ICP's:
On the ground Article 409 seems to cover much of the same ground ICP's do anyway, except with stricter wire bend ratios.