Iron outlet requirement??

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One of my guys was informed by an inspector that it is an NEC requirement to have an outlet installed across from the dryer outlet for an iron. I am not sure if he was just messing with the green helper or have I missed something in the NEC completely?
 
As you can see from some of the other posts, someone is messing with someone. The inspector can want a lot of things, but the outlet you've mentioned is not required by the NEC.
 
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justin said:
One of my guys was informed by an inspector that it is an NEC requirement to have an outlet installed across from the dryer outlet for an iron. I am not sure if he was just messing with the green helper or have I missed something in the NEC completely?
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Why was a green helper on the job alone ?
 
Section 210.52(F) In dwelling units,at least one receptacle outlet shall be installed in the laundry.
 
jwelectric said:
My wife wants to know what an "iron" is. :lol:
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Tell her that if she fixes dinner for my wife and me, my wife will explain it to her! :p

My wife is obsessively compulsive about her clothing and irons most everything. Now if I could just get her to be that way about cooking. :)
 
dlhoule said:
jwelectric said:
My wife wants to know what an "iron" is. :lol:
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Tell her that if she fixes dinner for my wife and me, my wife will explain it to her! :p

My wife is obsessively compulsive about her clothing and irons most everything. Now if I could just get her to be that way about cooking. :)
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I suggested this to the wife and she is eager to tell your wife about a new process that she has learned about called ?dry cleaning?
No more boiling water, no more cloths lines, and no more wash boards.

 
Mike, judging from the looks of that wash board, it hasn't been used very much. Most of the ones I've seen used had much more wear on them. :p :D
 
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Come on, guys and gals. Let's learn to communicate. Let's learn that we each know at least two languages, that the two languages are similar, and that failure to recognize which of the two languages is being spoken at any given moment is a major cause of mis-communication. I don't remember any of the German, Spanish, or French I took in my early years, but I do know that I can speak three languages very well: (1) English, (2) Conversational (or colloquial) English, and (3) The Language of the Profession.

j_erickson said:
There is no "iron" outlet requirement per NEC.
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This is a true statement, and it is spoken in the Language of the Profession.

romeo said:
Section 210.52(F) In dwelling units, at least one receptacle outlet shall be installed in the laundry.
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This is another true statement, and it too is spoken in the Language of the Profession.

justin said:
. . . (an inspector said) that it is an NEC requirement to have an outlet installed across from the dryer outlet for an iron.
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This is also a true statement! But it is spoken in a different language: Conversational English. The Inspector is right, in that there must be an outlet. The Inspector is correctly surmising that one of the most frequent uses of that outlet could be for an iron. To describe that outlet as being for an iron is not a declaration that the NEC calls it an "iron outlet." The Inspector is not saying that if he came back one day and saw that the homeowner had plugged in a lamp, and not an iron, he would write up a violation against the homeowner.

The Inspector might have said the same thing in the Language of the Profession, if he had chosen to word his statement this way, "It is an NEC requirement that there be a receptacle outlet in the laundry area. Generally speaking, a good location for that outlet is across from the dryer. The outlet is there to serve whatever needs the homeowner might have, but a common use for that outlet is to plug in an iron." What the Inspector chose to say has exactly the same meaning.

Charlie's Rule ? Addendum.

"Charlie's Rule" does not apply to conversations.
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ramdiesel3500 said:
I thought a dedicated outlet for the washing machine filled the requirements of 210.52(F)???
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We've had this discussion before, but I do not recall how it turned out. The topic was whether there could be, or whether there had to be, a receptacle outlet in the general area of the laundry machines (other than the one for the washer), and if there were such an outlet, whether it could be on the same circuit as a receptacle elsewhere in the basement. Part of that discussion had to do with the fact that the NEC does not say that the required laundry outlet is supposed to be there for the washer.

Anyone recall that discussion or its outcome?
 
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charlie b said:
"It is an NEC requirement that there be a receptacle outlet in the laundry area. Generally speaking, a good location for that outlet is across from the dryer.
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I would have to say the last part of that is a false statement.

If the inspector is insisting on one outlet in the laundry area across from the dryer will be a poor location.

If I was to install only one duplex outlet in the laundry area the best location will be within 6' of the water hook ups. That outlet will be needed for the washer and maybe the dryer if it is a gas unit.

I am willing to bet that Justin's inspector is asking for both an outlet behind the washer / dryer and across from the dryer for an iron.
 
charlie b said:
The Inspector might have said the same thing in the Language of the Profession, if he had chosen to word his statement this way, "It is an NEC requirement that there be a receptacle outlet in the laundry area. Generally speaking, a good location for that outlet is across from the dryer.
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The best location for the laundry outlet is behind the washer, if the washer is across from the dryer, then so be it.
ramdiesel3500 said:
I thought a dedicated outlet for the washing machine filled the requirements of 210.52(F)???
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If the laundry receptacle of 210.52(F) isn't the washer receptacle, then the circuiting restriction of 210.11(C)(2) wouldn't apply to the washer.

The "iron" would have to be on a dedicated circuit but the washer could be on a general purpose lighting circuit with half of the house. :?

210.11(C)(1) restricts the small appliance circuits
210.11(C)(3) restricts the bathroom circuits
and 210.11(C)(2) restricts the "ironing" board circuit ?

I don't think so !! :roll:

David
 
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