Is this a code violation

[Amarjeet K]

Is the latch on electrical panel a NEC/OSHA violation.

 

[tom baker]

Probably it would be a violation of the UL listing of the panel. Probably can get a new latch from the mfg

 

[Ponchik]

Covers and the doors are "listed" by UL?

 

[jumper]

Covers and the doors are "listed" by UL?

Only thing I see in 312 about being listed or approved is non-metallic cabinets. Nada on covers or doors.

 

[tom baker]

Covers and the doors are "listed" by UL?

there is a standard for panelboards, much like receptacles and switches. Is the panelboard listed? Well now I am not sure. but its made per a product standard

 

[jumper]

there is a standard for panelboards, much like receptacles and switches. Is the panelboard listed? Well now I am not sure. but its made per a product standard

The only thing I see in 408 regarding cabinets containing panel boards is this.

408.38 Enclosure. Panelboards shall be mounted in cabinets,
cutout boxes, or identified enclosures and shall be
dead-front.

 

[Ponchik]

there is a standard for panelboards, much like receptacles and switches. Is the panelboard listed? Well now I am not sure. but its made per a product standard

Panel boards may be listed but since the door is not listed then the latch should be OK.

 

[jumper]

Panel boards may be listed but since the door is not listed then the latch should be OK.

Ain't thrilled with those shot screws though.

Then again, how much worse could make those wire pinching covers.

 

[Ponchik]

Ain't thrilled with those shot screws though.

Then again, how much worse could make those wire pinching covers.

I hate those covers!!!!

 

[Amarjeet K]

Once upon a time OHSA

Once upon a time OHSA

OSHA replied one letter in 2005
https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=25147

Is there any exception to this

 

[jap]

OSHA replied one letter in 2005
https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=25147

Is there any exception to this

I'd ask OSHA that question.

JAP>

 

[JFletcher]

Welcome. NEC violation, doubt it, if it is, it's a a minor/technical type rather than a 'you're going to kill someone/burn down the building' type.

As for OSHA, it may be more likely there, however as the article mentioned you can apply a variance if it is indeed a violation. Honestly, it's probably cheaper to get written up for it (if THAT ever happens) and then correct it within the allotted time.

There are probably millions of deadfronts with the old-style 'cam lock' fasteners that are broken/missing inoperable, most of which have been replaced with sheet metal screws in the corners. Not saying that is right either, just that it is prevalent.

If drilling a deadfront was never allowed, then all manual lock outs for breakers for generator feeds would be in violation.

and if it were me, I'd me more inclined to gig you for the missing hardware on the hasp or the open slots in the panel where the original lock went than the hasp itself,

 

[K8MHZ]

there is a standard for panelboards, much like receptacles and switches. Is the panelboard listed? Well now I am not sure. but its made per a product standard

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the 'panelboard' part the 'guts' and the box and door is the enclosure which is not part of the panelboard?

 

[tom baker]

For a commercial panel there is one article for the guts and one for the enclosure.

 

[Coppersmith]

I think we should give them points for trying to keep the door closed.