Isn't this awesome
- Thread starter nickelec
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Great planning....I hate it when I get to a job and they changed the door swing and never told us about it.
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- San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
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- Electrical Engineer
Ergo, you can’t get electrocuted. It’s safe!
Wouldn't even be allowed here........
ggunn
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Isn't that outlet too close to the sink, anyway?
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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About only place it can't go when talking about the sink is within the bowl of the sink.
kwired
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This apparently being a non dwelling bathroom, that receptacle possibly would never get used anyway.
Also that receptacle has a good chance of already having been there and someone decided a hand rail is required.
Also that receptacle has a good chance of already having been there and someone decided a hand rail is required.
qcroanoke
Sometimes I don't know if I'm the boxer or the bag
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- Sorta retired........
That's my thought.
ptonsparky
Tom
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I'm getting to the age that the bar is more likely to be needed than the receptacle.
MAC702
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Most places with a public bathroom would prefer no one can use the power there anyway. I'm thinking it's a great idea, if it meets the requirements to have a receptacle.
That said, one could probably get one of those close-quarters flat plugs in there.
That said, one could probably get one of those close-quarters flat plugs in there.
petersonra
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- Semi-retired engineer
yep
Kansas Mountain
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- Lighting and Lighting Control Designs
What code are you concerned about? Not aware of a minimum distance between sinks and recepts.
petersonra
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- Semi-retired engineer
As best I can tell, only AFCI and GFCI type receptacles are required to be readily accessible.
One might argue that the grab bar prevents ready access to the GFCI receptacle in the picture, however, I think you could operate, renew, or inspect it without having to remove the bar, so I would say it is "readily accessible".
ATSman
ATSman
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- Electrical Engineer/ Electrical Testing & Controls Retired 2025
Public Restroom
Public Restroom
It appears to be a public restroom as noted by the sign above the valve handle for
employees to wash their hands
Public Restroom
It appears to be a public restroom as noted by the sign above the valve handle for
employees to wash their hands
petersonra
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how does that change anything?
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- San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
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- Electrical Engineer
That's what I think too; they got hit with an ADA lawsuit (or threat of one) and had to install the bar long after the bathroom was originally built or remodeled.
One thing about this that makes me a little nervous is that behind that escutcheon plate of the grab bar are mounting screws that would have had to go into a stud: no getting away with wall anchors on grab bars. So given the location and orientation of that receptacle, it would be a miracle if one or more of the screws didn't hit a conductor. That could potentially energize that grab bar AHEAD of the GFCI and if you're an old fart like me that has to hold on to it while engaging in the business of using the facility, it could make for an exciting event......
petersonra
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kwired
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Non dwelling bathroom has no requirement to have a receptacle. If you do have any they still require GFCI protection though.
ptonsparky
Tom
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. Depending on when it was done, of course. I was called on it once years ago. AHJ couldn’t provide the article requiring it. Next code cycle included the wording.
kwired
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How many moons ago? I first started using NEC with 1987 edition. I think it has been fairly clear since then that only dwelling bathrooms required any receptacles. Not sure how clear GFCI protection was for non dwelling bathroom then, but seem to recall it was pretty clear by 1996 or so.
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