al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
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- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
The amount of time and effort to pull this off boggles my mind.
It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
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The amount of time and effort to pull this off boggles my mind.
al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
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- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
A little more detail. The property just sold. It was carefully inspected. Before the wall was openned up, it looked and tested just fine.
A little more detail. The property just sold. It was carefully inspected. Before the wall was openned up, it looked and tested just fine.
- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2023
- Occupation
- Hospital Master Electrician
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Now Al, my Dad hasn't been in Minnesota for nearly twenty years. How did this come about?
Now Al, my Dad hasn't been in Minnesota for nearly twenty years. How did this come about?
frankft2000
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- Maine
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
I'd be interested to see what kind of faceplate was on the front of this??
I'd be interested to see what kind of faceplate was on the front of this??
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- Windsor, CO NEC: 2023
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- Hospital Master Electrician
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Probably just a two-gang decora plate. They make TV-jack devices that fit perfect in a normal decora plate.
Probably just a two-gang decora plate. They make TV-jack devices that fit perfect in a normal decora plate.
al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
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- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
There were more of these, all in one part of the house. Cat 5, plain old telephone, cable and power and light, all under nice looking designer plates.
That's exactly right. White. High design.
There were more of these, all in one part of the house. Cat 5, plain old telephone, cable and power and light, all under nice looking designer plates.
big john
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- Location
- Portland, ME
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Where the heck is that EGC going all by itself??
-John
[ February 20, 2006, 12:25 AM: Message edited by: big john ]
That's one of the most jury-rigged setups I've seen in a long time.Mass hysteria!
Where the heck is that EGC going all by itself??
-John
[ February 20, 2006, 12:25 AM: Message edited by: big john ]
Minuteman
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- The Sooner Nation
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
And the handyman said, "Codes? We don't need no stinkin' codes!"
And the handyman said, "Codes? We don't need no stinkin' codes!"
LawnGuyLandSparky
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Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
To hell in a handbasket, apparently!Originally posted by big john:
That's one of the most jury-rigged setups I've seen in a long time.Mass hysteria!
Where the heck is that EGC going all by itself??
-John
goldstar
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- Location
- New Jersey
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Aside from the obvious violations, I'd be interested to know just how this "adjustable" box is going to adjust front to back with the conduits entering the bottom !!! I wish I could know the thought process this person used in installing this. Maybe, in their mind, they had a logical reason for doing this.
Aside from the obvious violations, I'd be interested to know just how this "adjustable" box is going to adjust front to back with the conduits entering the bottom !!! I wish I could know the thought process this person used in installing this. Maybe, in their mind, they had a logical reason for doing this.
al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
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- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
The piece of 12 NM goes downstream to a built in ironing board on the other side of the wall inside the master bath / laundry room.
The left GRC has the #14 circuit hot, wall sconce switch leg and neutral, that is about midway down stream in the bedroom circuit that covers a three bedroom and hallway area, roughly the back half of the house.
That, in fact, is the connection to the EGC for the receptacle. My guess is, the box was installed to get more depth for the cable and then the outlet needed a ground that, in the mind of the installer, wasn't there, so the bare #12 was run to another NM jbox just around the corner. :roll:
The piece of 12 NM goes downstream to a built in ironing board on the other side of the wall inside the master bath / laundry room.
The left GRC has the #14 circuit hot, wall sconce switch leg and neutral, that is about midway down stream in the bedroom circuit that covers a three bedroom and hallway area, roughly the back half of the house.
al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
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- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
The holes cut in for the two GRCs were pretty accurate. Round, not oval, and snug to the pipe.
That really is the amazing thing, isn't it?
The holes cut in for the two GRCs were pretty accurate. Round, not oval, and snug to the pipe.
throttlebody
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- Martinsburg, WV
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Ya know, that pic reminds me of a DIY who will pay over 1G to have a professional to install a theatre system for them, but turn around and try to save money and do everything short of burning down their own home.
Ya know, that pic reminds me of a DIY who will pay over 1G to have a professional to install a theatre system for them, but turn around and try to save money and do everything short of burning down their own home.
ramdiesel3500
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- Location
- Bloomington IN
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Looks to me like a very efficient use of space. Keeps the wall clean and easy to paint!
Looks to me like a very efficient use of space. Keeps the wall clean and easy to paint!
al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
*bump*
The amount of time and effort to pull this off boggles my mind.
*bump*
The amount of time and effort to pull this off boggles my mind.
stars13bars2
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Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
All that effort just to keep from having to install a couple of locknuts and ground a 4 square box. What was he thinking???
All that effort just to keep from having to install a couple of locknuts and ground a 4 square box. What was he thinking???
Brian D
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- Mahopac, NY
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
where is that bare ground leaving the box going?
where is that bare ground leaving the box going?
rcarroll
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- Fort Collins, Colorado
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
One man's code violation is another man's work of art.
One man's code violation is another man's work of art.
jeff43222
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- Minneapolis, Minnesota
Re: It Never Ceases To Amaze Me
Al,
Did you find this in the city, or was it in one of the more rustic counties nearby? I've seen some wacky stuff, but I don't recall ever seeing anything that weird in the city.
Al,
Did you find this in the city, or was it in one of the more rustic counties nearby? I've seen some wacky stuff, but I don't recall ever seeing anything that weird in the city.
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