jb's under insulation

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can anyone give me a code section from the 2002 nec that says "jb's" under insulation in an attic are not considered accessible?
 
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It's a bit gray in that area. Since you really don't have to remove a finish to get at them its hard to push that. Problem is can they be located. You might ask them to put a stick or something marking the spot and paint it red. It is an ahj issue as to inforce.
 
as this issue may be a "grey" area...it sure is not when your swimming in freshly blown by a homeowner who ordered way too much and put 3' of insulation in his attic.:mad:
 
I think this is an AHJ call. Personally I would avoid it as much as I can, however I don't believe it is considered not accessible. A jb under the house is not visible from above but it is accessible. There is nothing that says I must be able to view the jb from the area it is in. Thus it can be behind a ceiling tile, inside a cabinet, etc.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
I think this is an AHJ call.
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For what it is worth my personal opinion is that there is no call to make, the NEC allows it.

Personally I would avoid it as much as I can, however I don't believe it is considered not accessible. A jb under the house is not visible from above but it is accessible. There is nothing that says I must be able to view the jb from the area it is in. Thus it can be behind a ceiling tile, inside a cabinet, etc.
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I agree 100% :)
 
Several years ago when i was doing many fire jobs they would need to remove trusses so this meant cut wires and splice them back. Being that often would be 40 or 50 boxes. I did the smart thing in asking the inspector. What most requested (note: not demanded) was to mount them where they were not covered and paint them red and a small board near them in red. Really not that hard to do. Perhaps there should be a rule but there is not. It is concealed but does not damage the finish to get at it.(that is the gray part as it is still removing a finish that is easily put back ) The catch here is work with the inspector and he will not usually be a pain on other small issues.
 
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