Job Box Security

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480sparky

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OK, not exactly a 'Safety' item, but this was brought up in another forum, so I copied what I posted and placed it here for all concerned:



Word of warning about job boxes:

DO NOT get one that does not capture the padlock(s) you use. If you get one that uses loose padlocks (meaning, you remove them from the box to open it) you still have a security threat. Generally, the cheapest boxes use this method.

Here's how it works:
At the start of the day, you unlock your box, and what do you do with the padlocks? Set them inside the box, right? And you think you're safe at the end of the day when you pop them back on and go home. WRONG!

What a savvy theif does is suanter by your job box, and takes a peek at what brand & model of padlock you have. He/she then goes out and buys padlock(s) just like the one(s) you use. When the time is right, the crook replaces your locks with their own.
Now, at the end of the day, you dutifully slap the padlocks on, and beat feat outa there with a totally false sense of security. That night, the theif shows up with the KEY TO HIS/HER locks that YOU INSTALLED, and speedily takes off with all your goodies stashed inside.

To add insult to injury, the SOB will lock the box back up, so when you come in the next day, your key won't work. So you either have a locksmith come out, ask the welder on the site to cut it open, or drill out the locks.......... only to find an empty box!

If the cops or jobsite security happen to come along and see what's going on, all the theif has to say is, "Well, it's MY box.... look, I even have the key to it!"

This HAS HAPPENED at jobsites I've worked at, so I strongly recommend the brands that must have the padlocks physically installed inside the box itself. Yes, they can be swapped, but not in a matter of seconds as in the scenario above. It would take several minutes and a few tools to do, so the theif will move on instead.

If you do get one that requires you to remove the padlocks, at least lock the shackles together before placing them in the box for the day.

Theiving ba***ards are everywhere these days. You have been warned.
 

480sparky

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Iowegia
........Seriously are the yahoos that resort to this stuff even that clever?

Yes:
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........This HAS HAPPENED at jobsites I've worked at, .........
 

wawireguy

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You better invest in locks that can't be drilled out also. Channel locks and a 1/4" drill bit, about 30 seconds, hit the lock and snap. Comes right apart.
 

masterinbama

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That's why I lock the lock back on the box after I open it. That way I am sure it is my key that opens it. The other thing is make sure you erase the numbers off of the lock and only hand your employees copies of the keys without numbers on them. Any locksmith can make a key off of the numbers. I use color coded locks and keys different colors for job boxes, storage trailers , shop gates and shop buildings.
 

ultramegabob

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Indiana
im not sure what type of job box your talking bout capturing the lock, the type that I use have square holes that you slide long shanked padlocks in, they lay flat with the keyholes faceing out, but if they are unlocked they can still be removed. the last time I was on a job where there was theft involving a job box, the thief used a fork lift and took the job box and placed it in a truck and drove off....
 

SmithBuilt

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Foothills of NC
A determined thief will not be stopped by a padlock (ask any firefighter).

I would venture to say that most job boxes thieves are employees or other tradesmen on the same job.

This is true from my experience. Instead of breaking into the box they cut the cable and chain we had used to secure it to a column, loaded it up and took off. I'm fairly certain I knew which sub did it but had absolutely no evidence to prove it. That was about $3000.

A couple of weeks later the thieves hit the GC's storage container $10,000. It was setting right out next to a well traveled road with plenty of light. Locked up with a good padlock. None of that stopped them.

We no longer leave tools on the job. It's a pain.
 
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