junction box access
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Re: junction box access
Look....you asked what about 410.14 (A)?
I tried to show examples of where this article applies..thats all.
And NO I am not talking about 410.16 (c) thats a different issue than the original question about boxes, access and fixtures independent of outlet boxes....
Look....you asked what about 410.14 (A)?
I tried to show examples of where this article applies..thats all.
And NO I am not talking about 410.16 (c) thats a different issue than the original question about boxes, access and fixtures independent of outlet boxes....
crossman
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Re: junction box access
What is the difference between mounting the surface mount florescent fixture and a regular ol' incandescent fixture at the box? In either case, you have to remove the fixture to get to the box.
oh... luminaire... sorry.
What is the difference between mounting the surface mount florescent fixture and a regular ol' incandescent fixture at the box? In either case, you have to remove the fixture to get to the box.
oh... luminaire... sorry.
Re: junction box access
If you use A 3" knockout in the back of the flo. fixture where the box is you have acsess to the box when you have the fixure fastened to the ceiling.
The hole is covered by the ballast cover and you still meet the requirements of 410.14(B) ,plus they are easy to install this way.
If you use A 3" knockout in the back of the flo. fixture where the box is you have acsess to the box when you have the fixure fastened to the ceiling.
The hole is covered by the ballast cover and you still meet the requirements of 410.14(B) ,plus they are easy to install this way.
physis
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Re: junction box access
Let me start over and be more specific about what I meant with my question.
Does anybody think it might be possible to apply either 410.14(A) or 410.14(B)to the same situation?
If you can, and it looks like you can to me, then 410.14(A) and 410.14(B) conflict with each other.
Let me start over and be more specific about what I meant with my question.
Does anybody think it might be possible to apply either 410.14(A) or 410.14(B)to the same situation?
If you can, and it looks like you can to me, then 410.14(A) and 410.14(B) conflict with each other.
busman
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Re: junction box access
This is a related question. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the sharp sheet metal edges on some fixtures (primarily vanity lights for bathrooms). They are manufactured with a large hole for access to the wiring in the box, but it seems like they should include a plastic grommet to protect the wires from the sheet metal. Just my opinion, I guess UL has listed them this way.
Mark
This is a related question. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the sharp sheet metal edges on some fixtures (primarily vanity lights for bathrooms). They are manufactured with a large hole for access to the wiring in the box, but it seems like they should include a plastic grommet to protect the wires from the sheet metal. Just my opinion, I guess UL has listed them this way.
Mark
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Re: junction box access
I get concerned about that too. Sometimes I'll slide some sheathing over the conductors passing through the hole, or drill my own with a unibit and install a grommet.
Related related question: Where can I find if certain vanities (with backplates) can be used as the junction box?
I get concerned about that too. Sometimes I'll slide some sheathing over the conductors passing through the hole, or drill my own with a unibit and install a grommet.
Related related question: Where can I find if certain vanities (with backplates) can be used as the junction box?
gserve
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Re: junction box access
So you guys are saying that I can punch a say 2 or 3 inch hole for access then mount over the JB? Does this violate the manufacturers or UL listing? Comments?
So you guys are saying that I can punch a say 2 or 3 inch hole for access then mount over the JB? Does this violate the manufacturers or UL listing? Comments?
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