just need to know about working for cash in nj

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ive been working for cash here and there for a licensed electrician if he signs the work cerification sheet that i have worked for him does anyone think i will have a problem getting approved too take my masters test. i ve been told no but i have a bad feeling please help. this is in new jersey. i think this is a good question.


mike the electrician:smile: :)
 
I would not worry about the certification paper, as I would the Fed taxes, and the Jersey taxes, jersey is in trouble with meeting their obligations, and bonds, so they have increased investigations, and enforcement, the outcome for anyone not filing, is not pretty, the penalties, and fines are excessive.
 
I would be concerned about telling anyone that you've become a tax cheat, especially the State. If they ask for further documentation (tax returns, w-2 forms) how will you provide it? You might want to rethink about the application process unless your employment record is completely legit.
 
Lots of issues here:
1 - Working for "cash" means no paper trail to actually PROVE you worked for him ~ regardless of the "promises".
2 - No taxes paid (Part of #1)...the IRS may be interested in speaking with both of you (this is NOT the IRS, this is a friendly forum)
3 - Working "here and there" means what? You need x amount of time...how long will it actually take you meet that requirement ~ nevermind...see #1
4 - There is no such thing as a "master's" in NJ. You can be:
  • an apprentice/helper
  • a qualified journeyman
  • an electrical contractor
Someone has been trying to blow smoke out your nose the hard way.


Here are all the requirements for taking your electrical contractor's test:
ApplicationsRules(From: http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/nonmedical/electrical.htm)

Buried deep within the Electrical Contractors Laws [pdf 80K] is a brief touch upon what is called a "qualified journeyman electrician":
45:5A-11.1 Registration as qualified journeyman electrician.
The board shall register as a qualified journeyman electrician an applicant who:

a. Holds a current valid license to practice electrical contracting by the board; or

b. Has acquired sufficient practical experience working with tools in the installation, alteration or repair of wiring for electric light, heat or power, as determined by the board, and has successfully completed an appropriate number of classroom hours of related instruction, as determined by the board, which requirement of practical experience shall not include time spent in supervising, engineering, estimating and other managerial tasks; or

c. Has demonstrated to the satisfaction of the board that he has met the requirements of subsection b. of this section through alternative means.
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Note that is no testing requirement here ....just a "determination" by the board

Don't get discouraged here, Mike....this forum is a great place to learn (sometimes the lesson is hard).

See if this guy will put you "on the books". If not, see if anyone is hiring that WILL put you "on the books" - don't let anyone hold you back.
 
infinity said:
You might want to rethink about the application process unless your employment record is completely legit.
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That's the short version ...Trevor must have had that all written, edited and posted while I was typing :D
 
wireman71 said:
And if you get hurt on the job your cash paying employer will drop you like a hot potato.
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"Really - never seen that guy before - I came back from lunch and there he was - dead on the floor." :roll:

Or:

"Hey buddy - I don't owe you any money - I've never seen you before in my life!"
 
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