Kitchen-Bathroom AREA in regard to GFCI protection

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PCBelarge

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Kitchens and Bathrooms are defined as AREAS. I have a large area that a kitchen is located in, whether or not it is residential or commercial. There are receptacles installed in the walls that are 15ft (or more) away from any preparation, cooking or sink areas. I say that the definitions make it possible that those receptacles are not required to be GFCI protected.
How do others understand this?
 
How do others understand this?
I agree with you. If the area boundary line isn't visually obvious, the original floor plans should help.

I once had an inspector insist that a built-in desk away from the food prep area needed GFCI protection.

A simple and polite request to have his supervisor come out and look at it took care of that.
 
One other issue is the drawings. If I am involved with the job, I request the Architect to relabel the room areas. This makes a big difference to the E. Inspector and the Bldging official.
 
I agree with you. If the area boundary line isn't visually obvious, the original floor plans should help.

I once had an inspector insist that a built-in desk away from the food prep area needed GFCI protection.

A simple and polite request to have his supervisor come out and look at it took care of that.
An argument could be made that this desk area can't be on the SABC's as well.

Same I guess could go for OP's outlets that are not part of the kitchen.

Didn't 2020 and/or 2023 NEC require GFCI for all receptacles in the kitchen now?

Still on 2017 here but will be changing to 2023 soon, but they did amend it and 210.8 will end up being mostly the same thing as was in 2017.
 
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