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im going to do a kitchen remodel job this weekend..the customer doesnt want receptacles on the counter to mess up the way the backsplash looks but instead he wants a plug strip (plugmold) mounted to the underside of the cabinet above the counter. i plan on using GFCI breakers to provide the protection for this. any code issues i should know about?
 
Just to add....If they are going to actually use the kitchen and the receptacles they are probably going to get sick of trying to plug stuff in under the cabinets. They will then leave the appliances plugged in and instead of having a receptacle behind an appliance where you can't even see it you will see a bunch of cords hanging down which looks even worse.

What I do if they don't want to see the recptacles is suggest they be installed close to the counter and horizontally. This works well usually. The other part of the equation is that you can get almost any color device and can usually match the tile or stone pretty well.

If they insist on plugmpld I try to use this stuff. Looks better than standard plugmold and is available in different colors.. http://www.tasklighting.com/ap/angle-strip.htm
 
You should know that it will likely be a royal pain.

Plug mold is hard enough to install normally but you are working upside down.

Also, most cabinets have a recessed bottom so you will have to notch them out to run flush. Get the cabinet guy to do this before they are installed.

Solid wire butt splices never seemed like a good idea to me.

I always try to talk them out of that idea. They don't realize that when the appliances are plugged in it will look worse that if the receps were wall mounted.
 
220/221 said:
You should know that it will likely be a royal pain.

Plug mold is hard enough to install normally but you are working upside down.

Also, most cabinets have a recessed bottom so you will have to notch them out to run flush. Get the cabinet guy to do this before they are installed.

Solid wire butt splices never seemed like a good idea to me.

I always try to talk them out of that idea. They don't realize that when the appliances are plugged in it will look worse that if the receps were wall mounted.
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I am inclined to agree, had the same thing happen on a job. The homeowner had more money than sense and said she didn't want counter receps ruining the "flow" of her countertops and wanted them installed underneath the cabinets. I tried to talk her out of this but the customer is always right. After completing the job, she called back about a month later and said she wanted them the way I suggested because all of her countertop appliances' cords looked horrible, and that she had the entire countertop and cabinets removed!
I should be so lucky to have that kind of money!:grin:
 
wow thanks for linking me to that task lighting strip that looks pretty nice..im going to try to talk him out of putting the plugs up there like that but if he wants them ill try to sell him that strip :grin:
 
220/221 said:
You should know that it will likely be a royal pain.

Plug mold is hard enough to install normally but you are working upside down.

Also, most cabinets have a recessed bottom so you will have to notch them out to run flush. Get the cabinet guy to do this before they are installed.

Solid wire butt splices never seemed like a good idea to me.

I always try to talk them out of that idea. They don't realize that when the appliances are plugged in it will look worse that if the receps were wall mounted.
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i agree that plug mold sucks to install and installing anything under the cabinet isnt too much fun either. hopefully i can get that task lighting angle strip i really like the way it looks
 
mdshunk said:
You're not actually supposed to use them anyhow in Plugmold. The manufacturer wants you to use their W-30 connectors.
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IMO, NO CRIMP connections are allowable on solid wire, prone to vibration or not.
 
I agree that they are hard to install. But disagree that the cords look worse than the receptacles. The appliance is usually in front of cover the cord.

Charge more for the plug mold and make some money. At the same time you will have a happy customer.

Tim
 
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