Kitchenette has same code as kitchens ?

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The NEC defines a kitchen as "an area with a sink and permanent provisions for food preparation and cooking." If it's got a sink and a microwave, even, most AHJs would consider it a kitchen.
 
rnatalie said:
The NEC defines a kitchen as "an area with a sink and permanent provisions for food preparation and cooking." If it's got a sink and a microwave, even, most AHJs would consider it a kitchen.
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As long as the microwave was a built-in, otherwise it's not permanent.
 
I could see trying to avoid the kitchen requirements in a commercial setting, but for a residential kitchenette, why not build it like a kitchen? I could easily see the homeowner wanting to plug in a bunch of crock pots, roasters, fryers, etc. during a party. Two countertop circuits might not be enough.
 
d0nut said:
I could see trying to avoid the kitchen requirements in a commercial setting, but for a residential kitchenette, why not build it like a kitchen? I could easily see the homeowner wanting to plug in a bunch of crock pots, roasters, fryers, etc. during a party. Two countertop circuits might not be enough.
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There are no circuit requirements for a non-residential kitchen. That is a design issue and not a code issue.
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
There are no circuit requirements for a non-residential kitchen. That is a design issue and not a code issue.
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While there's no small appliance circuit requirement, it should be noted that receptacles in non-dwelling kitchens need GFCI protection (countertop or elsewhere).
 
gadfly56 said:
If your asking me to play AHJ, if you have to undo a screw or break a union, it's permanent. Pull a plug and go, not permanent.
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Exactly. If it is meant for the end-user to disconnect and relocate, or put away on a regular basis, that would be non-permanent. If you have to get a tool to disassemble its connection to the building/plumbing/electrical, or if you have to cut through building materials to remove it, that would be permanent.

Sure a permanent appliance isn't truly permanent in the sense that it can still malfunction years later thus needing replacement, or be removed during a remodel. However, it is permanent in the sense that it is built-in as part of the building, rather than being a stand-alone appliance that anyone can unplug and move.
 
Carultch said:
Exactly. If it is meant for the end-user to disconnect and relocate, or put away on a regular basis, that would be non-permanent. If you have to get a tool to disassemble its connection to the building/plumbing/electrical, or if you have to cut through building materials to remove it, that would be permanent.

Sure a permanent appliance isn't truly permanent in the sense that it can still malfunction years later thus needing replacement, or be removed during a remodel. However, it is permanent in the sense that it is built-in as part of the building, rather than being a stand-alone appliance that anyone can unplug and move.
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That makes sense. I’ve always considered a stove “permanent“..
and after years of sitting there with years of spills you would think some are permanent while trying to get them out for replacement...
 
gadfly56 said:
If your asking me to play AHJ, if you have to undo a screw or break a union, it's permanent. Pull a plug and go, not permanent.
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Electric stove, so you only unplug it to move it. So I guess I don't need the small appliance branch circuits in my "non-kitchen" area. :)
 
Many of the commercial kitchens I wire have quick-disconnect gas fittings; as quick and easy as unplugging a plug.
 
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