Knockout seal

Jimmy7

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I want to plug a 1/2 knockout on a box that is mounted on a wooden beam. A chandelier is currently hanging from the box, so aI really don’t want to pull down a chandelier just to plug a knockout. Any ideas? Is a screw and fender washer good enough realistically?
 
I want to plug a 1/2 knockout on a box that is mounted on a wooden beam. A chandelier is currently hanging from the box, so aI really don’t want to pull down a chandelier just to plug a knockout. Any ideas? Is a screw and fender washer good enough realistically?
It’s mounted right up tight to the beam, so I don’t think it will snap in
OK so how is it you are aware of an open KO?
 
I want to plug a 1/2 knockout on a box that is mounted on a wooden beam. A chandelier is currently hanging from the box, so aI really don’t want to pull down a chandelier just to plug a knockout. Any ideas? Is a screw and fender washer good enough realistically?
Just widdle it out a bit with a paddle bit. She'll pop right in... (y)
 
Just widdle it out a bit with a paddle bit. She'll pop right in... (y)
I agree. Boxes are often mounted by removing a KO and using a fender washer to close the KO.
I think the screw and fender washer is sufficient.
All solutions presented require pulling the chandelier, the OP didn't want to do that.
I really don’t want to pull down a chandelier just to plug a knockout.
How is it you are aware of the open KO if you haven't already pulled the chandelier?
 
All solutions presented require pulling the chandelier, the OP didn't want to do that.
My solution did not require him to remove anything. Just get a fender washer big enough to cover the hole and a wood screw.
 
All solutions presented require pulling the chandelier, the OP didn't want to do that.

How is it you are aware of the open KO if you haven't already pulled the chandelier?
I had to fix a loose connection that I found, so I loosened the nut that slides down the chandelier chain which drops the canopy which then exposed the box
 
I had to fix a loose connection that I found, so I loosened the nut that slides down the chandelier chain which drops the canopy which then exposed the box
So you had access to the missing KO. Your initial idea of a screw and fender washer is fine.
 
I am not clear on what the issue is. I don't see anything wrong with a fender washer, but these two piece fillers might be a little more user friendly:
 

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I am not clear on what the issue is.
The box is mounted directly to a wood framing member so the KO cannot use any type of seal that needs to go through the KO. You could take the 3 piece KO seal in your photo and throw away the bracket and the screw and just use a wood screw.
 
I had to fix a loose connection that I found, so I loosened the nut that slides down the chandelier chain which drops the canopy which then exposed the box
Ok. Then any of the suggestions might work. Closure requirement per code (NEC 110.12(A)) is only that what ever is used is equivalent to the box wall properties. I would even think another KO removed from a different box and drill a small hole big enough for a screw and screw it in.
 
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