Labor Pricing

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Hello All I just registered for this forum, I found it yesterday, it seems fantastic. I'm just outside Rochester NY. and I am curious about how much other electricians charge for a labor rate. I would also be interested in all parts of the country as well.
Also do you use different labor rates for different work such as Residential, Commercial, Service Calls, Emergency service calls, Etc...

I want to thank everyone in advance for the responses.
 
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Hi Scott,

Does this hourly rate still work when you bid a residential house at a square foot price? I think I might be pretty cheap, and really slow!
 
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Labor prices are all relative, and most comparisons from one area to the other are invalid.

The cost of living is very high in southern New England where Scott, myself and a few others who participate here live. He lives in the Boston metro area, one of the most expensive places to live in the country. So $85 an hour really is not that much. :(
 
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Originally posted by yanert:
Hi Scott,

Does this hourly rate still work when you bid a residential house at a square foot price? I think I might be pretty cheap, and really slow
I have only done a few houses lately. I priced them at $2.75 to basic minimum code. I have not yet reconciled all my hours vs. the estimate to make sure I am bidding properly. I will do this before my next house. Ironically I just received my health insurance renewal today. :( Up $200 a month. That will have to be considered for rate adjustments. Finally, and beleive me this is not meant as any kind of bragging, but I am pretty quick and efficient when it comes to getting work done. This makes my hourly rate more valuable than someone a little slower and less efficient. What I am saying is that my $85.00 might be a better value than someone else's $75.00 if the customer gets more work for that money. That is where selling comes in.

[ February 26, 2005, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: electricmanscott ]
 
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Peter, I live in Upstate NY and the average price house is actually $250k not $100k or under. I wish it was but its not.

My price for commercial work is $65 per man our and residential is $45. I am originally from Long Island and the prices here are competitive with the prices down there.
 
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Originally posted by coppertreeelectric:
Peter, I live in Upstate NY and the average price house is actually $250k not $100k or under. I wish it was but its not.
True...I was thinking more of the "rust belt" between Albany and Buffalo.
 
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Steven, I'm glad you said it. I was scrolling my way down to post a reply. $100k, here? Yeah right.

I guess we all consider ourselves "Upstate".

Weird, to me in NY there is "Upstate", "The North Country",and "Out West".
Then there's "The City" and L.I..
 
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I have a small contracting business here in Northern Ca, rural area 18000 people in our town. I am the only elect contractor who have employees and am promoting a progressive business. I charge $ 65.00 per hour for commercial work and 52.80 for residential, why the odd hourly charge? you ask, that is how tight I have been tracking the rate to my overhead. This is a great retirement area and I have to deal with other contractors who are semi retired and charge 40 per hour, at hte same time they dont have work comp overhead and here in Ca it is the highest in the country, they dont even have liability insurance, I know because being a small area I hear the work thy wont bid on due to no insurance cert provision. I used to try and bid against these in my way electricians now if I find out during the bidding process they are bidding it is easier not to waste my time, if I do bid the customer ends up thinking I am trying to gouge them, and I personaly am tired of explaining that the bids are apples and mine is an orange, then I'll look at the job after these yahoos are done and it is a joke the workmanship is very poor, the materials are less than, it is sad the customer doesnt know the paid their hard earned money and the job might work for now but later try and upgrade or change something, then they find out they cant get there from here. My other complaint is General Contractors wiring everything and here in Ca it is OK, I worked with the State Contractors Board to site a concrete contractor who had some loser woking for him who had done some elect somewhere and before I knew it I was bidding against them, I tried to get the only wholesale house in the area not to sale them materials as the dont have the licsense to do the work, but they are to worried about sellig $ 1000 dollars to this loser and I am spending $ 300.000 per year, so I am having the bulk of my material shipped from almost 100 miles away at a much better price, it just forces me to be more organized an think ahead. Does any of this sound familiar and does anyone have any advice. Frustrated in Norhtern Ca
 
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I only have a sec here. Just a real quick note about the half breed electricians you speak of. The only tip I can offer when it comes to biding against them is to make it quite clear on your bid or contracts that you are a legitimate company. You hold insurances that will protect the customer from loss, you protect workers from injury costs, you carry licenses and so on. My customers seem to sleep good at night and trust me knowing that I carry a $8,000,000 Liability policy.


Make it clear that if you burn down someone's house your insurance will build them a new one. You obviously haven't burned anyone's house down because you still have an insurance company that will underwrite you. Your customer can also be safe knowing that if you track soil onto her imported $13,000 rug, it will be covered. I mention that one from experience :roll: . I think the soil was an improvement anyway... (smile)
 
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Another good point to "sell" to the customer - You have insurance to protect them from damages Plus medical costs that they might be forced into covering should one of those hacks get hurt on their property. Not much of a savings if the customer or their insutance has to cover "Joe Schmoe " when he fell and broke his arm.
 
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The charge rate here in WV (rural) is 25-30/res & 35-45/comm
in over the line(less then 1 hr away) VA(urban) its 40-50/res & comm.
Down the RD to DC its up to 80/ hr+. So you see the greater consumption of power the greater the lab rate. The better the sal/yr the greater the labor rate.
These people here in WV have bros, couzins, & uncs that are all weekend electricians, hence low lab. rate...
 
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Colorado: $65.00 to $85.00 per hour)
Big commercial company in Denver charges $120.00 per hour.
 
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Scott...I thought you actually DID enjoy bragging
I've always thought we should invade Canada. Now I am sure. :D
Oh and by the way, it's HAM for cryin' out loud!
Canadian Bacon... Ugh! :p

[ March 06, 2005, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: electricmanscott ]
 
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