Laundry room receptacle
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bphgravity
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
Actually, that one 20-ampere branch circuit can serve as many receptacles you want including the washer receptacle, but all the receptacles must only serve the laundry "area".
[ January 11, 2006, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: bphgravity ]
Actually, that one 20-ampere branch circuit can serve as many receptacles you want including the washer receptacle, but all the receptacles must only serve the laundry "area".
[ January 11, 2006, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: bphgravity ]
Re: Laundry room receptacle
210.11 (C)(2) and 210(52)(F) 05' NEC It can confuse people The laundry receptacle outlet(s)required by 210.52(F). This circuit Shall have no other outlets. Article 100 Outlet, utilization equipment I guess I can serve lighting with also??????????
210.11 (C)(2) and 210(52)(F) 05' NEC It can confuse people The laundry receptacle outlet(s)required by 210.52(F). This circuit Shall have no other outlets. Article 100 Outlet, utilization equipment I guess I can serve lighting with also??????????
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
Yep and nope, in that order. Yes, it is confusing. No, you cannot serve lights. The branch circuit that serves receptacle outlets for the laundry can have no other outlets than the receptacle outlets for the laundry.
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
But if the iron is running at 10 amps, and if the washer kicks in with a 11.5 amp starting current, that will not be a problem. A 20 amp breaker will not trip on a 21.5 amp current that only lasts as long as the motor starting transient.
The "situation" is that you can't include lights. The branch circuit that supplies the washer cannot supply lighting outlets, smoke detector outlets, or any other outlets than the laundry receptacle outlets.
But if the iron is running at 10 amps, and if the washer kicks in with a 11.5 amp starting current, that will not be a problem. A 20 amp breaker will not trip on a 21.5 amp current that only lasts as long as the motor starting transient.
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
D.Rater: For the record, it is OK for the laundry branch circuit to have only one receptacle (i.e., for the washer). It is also OK, but not required, for the same circuit to supply other receptacles for the laundry. However, that circuit is not permitted to supply any outlets other than receptacles for the laundry.
I noticed that too.
D.Rater: For the record, it is OK for the laundry branch circuit to have only one receptacle (i.e., for the washer). It is also OK, but not required, for the same circuit to supply other receptacles for the laundry. However, that circuit is not permitted to supply any outlets other than receptacles for the laundry.
Re: Laundry room receptacle
Triphase and Charlie--yeah, the way I got it is that the washer circuit cannot supply the 'other' receptacle(s) in the laundry(area),i.e. that other rec. then winds up having it's own circuit and bkr. Now if I understand it, I CAN use the washer rec. circuit to supply the 'other'(required) rec. in the laundry area. Correct?
Triphase and Charlie--yeah, the way I got it is that the washer circuit cannot supply the 'other' receptacle(s) in the laundry(area),i.e. that other rec. then winds up having it's own circuit and bkr. Now if I understand it, I CAN use the washer rec. circuit to supply the 'other'(required) rec. in the laundry area. Correct?
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
What makes you think that there is a requirement for a second receptacle (i.e., in addition to the one for the washer)? You are allowed to have a second or third or whatever, and they can all be on the same circuit. But you are also allowed to have just the one for the washer, and no others.
What makes you think that there is a requirement for a second receptacle (i.e., in addition to the one for the washer)? You are allowed to have a second or third or whatever, and they can all be on the same circuit. But you are also allowed to have just the one for the washer, and no others.
Re: Laundry room receptacle
Charlie doesn't that depend on the size of the laundry room and what else it could be used for? I failed a rought in because the opposite wall was far enough away to be used for other thing such as counterspace. I think there is something in the code to this effect or in the IRC.
Charlie doesn't that depend on the size of the laundry room and what else it could be used for? I failed a rought in because the opposite wall was far enough away to be used for other thing such as counterspace. I think there is something in the code to this effect or in the IRC.
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
The rules that tell us where to put receptacles are in 210.52. This article has sub-paragraphs (A) through (H). The rules about walls are in (A), and they apply to kitchens, dining rooms, living rooms, and a collection of other rooms. If the laundry area is close to one of these areas, then section (A) may require receptacles. But here again, it is because of the area being a hallway (or den or LR or whatever), not because there is a washing machine nearby. Basements are covered in (F), and countertops are covered in (C). Therefore, if in your situation the laundry machines were across from a wall that has room for countertops, but was in the basement, then all you needed was one receptacle (other than the laundry receptacle) somewhere in the basement. There would have been no requirement that a receptacle be placed on the wall across from the laundry.
I can't speak to the IRC. But as to whether another receptacle would be required, it depends on where the laundry room is located. If it is in the basement, then you will need a receptacle to serve the basement, and it must be separate from the laundry receptacle. But that is under the requirements for basements, not the requirements for laundry areas.
The rules that tell us where to put receptacles are in 210.52. This article has sub-paragraphs (A) through (H). The rules about walls are in (A), and they apply to kitchens, dining rooms, living rooms, and a collection of other rooms. If the laundry area is close to one of these areas, then section (A) may require receptacles. But here again, it is because of the area being a hallway (or den or LR or whatever), not because there is a washing machine nearby. Basements are covered in (F), and countertops are covered in (C). Therefore, if in your situation the laundry machines were across from a wall that has room for countertops, but was in the basement, then all you needed was one receptacle (other than the laundry receptacle) somewhere in the basement. There would have been no requirement that a receptacle be placed on the wall across from the laundry.
ryan_618
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
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LarryFine
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
A lot of people think "laundry" and "washer" are the same thing, but it ain't.
By George, I believe he's got it!
A lot of people think "laundry" and "washer" are the same thing, but it ain't.
Re: Laundry room receptacle
05' NEC 210.52(A) No requirements for laundry there and 210.52(F) AHH! Laundry "Just one Required" The laundry room could be the size of a football field with counter tops all around but only "One" Required. We just add receps. for convenience to owners.
05' NEC 210.52(A) No requirements for laundry there and 210.52(F) AHH! Laundry "Just one Required" The laundry room could be the size of a football field with counter tops all around but only "One" Required. We just add receps. for convenience to owners.
allenwayne
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Re: Laundry room receptacle
The one IMO is to make sure that there is clean clothing as stated the room can be the size of a football field and still have only the one rerquired receptacle.
The one IMO is to make sure that there is clean clothing as stated the room can be the size of a football field and still have only the one rerquired receptacle.
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