LED Tape must have channel ?

cburke1111

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Does anyone know the code number that says you have to install metal channel behind LED tape?
I just found out you are no longer allowed to install tape light to your cabinets
 
Where do you find this information about it being prohibited without a channel? I would think that the manufacturers instructions would tell you how it can be installed.
 
I’m currently in a Lutron class, and one of the other electricians mentioned that they recently failed an inspection due to this. I haven’t been able to find any relevant information in the codebook, and neither has he. However, if this is a change in the code, I would greatly appreciate it if someone could provide me with more details.

ChatGPT did provide the following:

The National Electrical Code (NEC) has several sections relevant to tape lighting (LED strip lighting) and its installation in metal channels. Here are the key considerations:

1. Article 411 – Low-Voltage Lighting
• If the LED tape lighting operates at Class 2 power supply (typically 24V or lower), it falls under Article 411, which covers low-voltage lighting systems.
• Class 2 power supplies must be listed and labeled for their intended use.
• Wiring must be protected from physical damage, which could be relevant when placing it inside a metal channel.
2. Article 725 – Class 2 and Class 3 Power-Limited Circuits
• If the tape lighting is powered by a Class 2 power supply, the wiring methods must comply with Article 725 for power-limited circuits.
Conductor insulation and protection are essential.
3. Article 300 – General Wiring Methods
• If the LED tape lighting is line-voltage (120V), then regular NEC wiring methods apply, meaning:
• Wires inside a metal channel must be rated for use inside raceways (if applicable).
Box fill and conduit fill rules apply if running wires in enclosed spaces.
4. Article 110.3(B) – Listing and Labeling
• All components, including LED tape lights and metal channels, must be installed according to their UL listing and manufacturer’s instructions.
• Some metal channels are specifically designed for heat dissipation, so using non-listed alternatives may cause overheating issues.
5. Article 410 – Luminaires, Lampholders, and Lamps
• Tape lighting is considered a luminaire under Article 410, meaning it must comply with installation, support, and accessibility requirements.
410.104 states that metal parts of luminaires must be grounded if required.

Key Takeaways
• Ensure the tape lighting and metal channel are UL listed for the intended use.
• If using a Class 2 power supply, follow Article 411 and 725.
• If using 120V tape lighting, apply standard wiring rules from Article 300 and 410.
• Prevent overheating by following the manufacturer’s guidelines for metal channel use.
Grounding and insulation are essential when working with metallic components.
Would you like help finding NEC-compliant products or specific installation details?
 
one of the other electricians mentioned that they recently failed an inspection due to this. I haven’t been able to find any relevant information in the codebook, and neither has he.
Did he mention what code section was violated? I don't think that you'll find it in the NEC.
 
Did he mention what code section was violated? I don't think that you'll find it in the NEC.

No, we both looked. The best thing I found was the Chat GPT search.

He did mention that it had something to do with water hitting the LED tape in the kitchen. So the tape needs to be covered because it’s not water-resistant.
 
So, how does a channel BEHIND the tape take care of that??

-Hal
I think that he's suggesting it would also have a cover. The underside of a cabinet is not a wet location so the water hitting it theory is lame.
 
No, we both looked. The best thing I found was the Chat GPT search.

He did mention that it had something to do with water hitting the LED tape in the kitchen. So the tape needs to be covered because it’s not water-resistant.
I use chat a lot but I makes crap up. I ended up correcting it with code related stuff.
 
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No, we both looked. The best thing I found was the Chat GPT search.

He did mention that it had something to do with water hitting the LED tape in the kitchen. So the tape needs to be covered because it’s not water-resistant.
Dame and wet listed is two different thing my tape is damp rated not wet. If your kitchen is wet you have an insurance claim anyway
 
Damp and wet listed is two different thing my tape is damp rated not wet. If your kitchen is wet you have an insurance claim anyway
If the location is now damp or wet then all of your receptacles need damp or wet location covers. The entire argument is dubious.
 
So, I called the Lee County Inspector, and he informed me that he’s also unaware of the issue. However, as long as the LED tape light is listed to be mounted on a cabinet, it’s considered acceptable.

Therefore, we can still mount the LED tape light directly to the cabinet.

On a side note, I also contacted my supplier, who supplies most of my LED tape lights. He echoed the inspector’s response but mentioned that they’re experiencing issues with some of the higher wattage LED tape lights burning out quickly because installers aren’t using large enough channels to reduce the heat from the LED tape light.

This is something to keep in mind when planning your installation.
 
some of the higher wattage LED tape lights burning out quickly because installers aren’t using large enough channels to reduce the heat from the LED tape light.
I've installed some LED tape light in a church sign that got HOT. I installed it on both sides of a square aluminum tube, powered it on and left it on the floor while I grabbed lunch. Came back to find it had melted the carpet.

But fo sho a different issue from wet areas, under cabinet, etc
 
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