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NJ is the same way,. work without a license is a $10,000 fine, 4th degree offence. Besides all the other statues and rule contractors and other break.
 
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You can solve all the unlicensed work by allowing electical supplies be sold only to licensed electricians. They do this with AC equipment, why not Electrical.
If funny how this solution is never brought up in these forums.

Can you buy an AC unit at the "big orange box".. NO
Can you buy Freon at the "big orange box".. NO
Only freon my be killing the ozone layer, but more people die each year from electrical fires than the sun beating down on your head.

Just my opinion....
 
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big orange will sell you duct works,grill,flex,tape,everything but the units

[ April 10, 2005, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: jimwalker ]
 
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Might be a little tough to restrict sales of electrical supplies to licensed people only. Where I live, state law lets anyone who homesteads a single-family detached dwelling do anything with his house's electrical system, provided he pulls a homeowner's permit beforehand. The only difference between Joe Homeowner and me is that Joe Homeowner can do electrical work only on his own house, while I can work on anyone's house.

I doubt Big Orange is going to be interested in demanding permits from people before selling them a roll of NM.
 
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You can solve all the unlicensed work by allowing electical supplies be sold only to licensed electricians
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If funny how this solution is never brought up in these forums
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It has been brought up. While I don't like to see any old schmoe doing electrical work I don't think this is the answer.
 
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I would hate to think that I could not strap on my tools (if I can still get the belt fastened) and extend a circuit to install a receptacle outlet if I want to do it in my own home. Even though I held a Master's License and owned my own electrical business, I no longer have either. I am sure I could still do the work but I would rather hire someone to do it for me now (I am getting long in the tooth). Are you going to prevent me from purchasing some NM cable, a cut in box, etc. (actually, I still have a small supply)? :D
 
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Originally posted by jimwalker:
Might add that if you know the right people you can buy all the AC equipment you want ;)
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Same here, I can go to a HVAC supply house within 25 miles and buy any equipment I want, no questions asked, pay in cash. ;)
 
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Charlie, you must hand over all that wire and material to the local ahj immediately. :D
Seriously some of us do know how to do other trades,and if it is for our own homes i dont see why we shouldnt be allowed.
 
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Jim, if you drive up here, I will give it all to you along with my pouch and tools (I don't know if I would give up my Kleins though). :D
 
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If I am correct. The original post was about "jacklegs" doing business as electrical contractors. Not once have I spoke of the homeowner not being able to do their own work.

[ April 11, 2005, 11:16 PM: Message edited by: bigjohn67 ]
 
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Big John, most homeowners are jacklegs. As rusty as I am, I would consider myself sort of a jackleg when actually doing the work. If my electric furnace quits, I get my Wiggies out and check for voltage to it and voltage across the fuses. If a fuse is blown or a circuit breaker is tripped, I will have that information when I call the repair person. I will have them trouble shoot the reason for it being down and then reset the circuit breaker or replace the fuse. :D
 
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Ok so why not let them buy boxes and nm and pvc. But not let them get meter sockets, panels or any breaker over a 20 amp. That would restrict them to doing minor work, and keep them alot safer at the same time.
 
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Charlie just were are you located i am headed to ky in july from Tampa,car will be full but i might stop and say high if your on the route
 
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The problem I have with homeowners who are allowed to do their own work- is that often times these houses get sold or passed on. In my state it is illegal for anyone who is not a licenced electrician to work on any electrical work period. I am thinking maybe 10 per cent of my revenue comes from making corrections on existing improper installations that appear to me to be either homeowner done or handyman jobs, that get thru home sales and end up becoming the new homeowner's problem.
 
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I can see the headlines now: "State Electrical Apprenticeship rolls up 4 trillion percent from last year." :D

Restrict sales of electrical equipment? Ho ho ho... :D
 
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I don't have a problem with homeowners being allowed to do their own work, as long as they are held to the same standards we are. That means pulling a permit and getting their work inspected. Some homeowners are diligent enough to do their homework and learn how to do it right, but they are the exception rather than the rule.

The real problem is that hack work is done without being detected until long afterward. By that time, it's impossible to hold the guilty accountable.

I like the idea of having a complete inspection/inventory every time a house goes on the market, and they could compare the report to the previous one to see if any changes were made and if the work was done under a permit and inspected. That way, they'd know the seller was responsible for the hack work and could make him correct the problems.
 
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