Licensing
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petersonra
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Re: Licensing
I don't believe the NEC says any such thing. States and local governments often impose such requirements though.
I don't believe the NEC says any such thing. States and local governments often impose such requirements though.
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- Bremerton, Washington
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- Master Electrician
Re: Licensing
Perhaps Article 80 if adopted, otherwise the nec does not address the issue of licensing. It does address qualified person, see the article 100 definition of this term. then you would need to know the locations in the NEC where a qualfied person is requred.
Perhaps Article 80 if adopted, otherwise the nec does not address the issue of licensing. It does address qualified person, see the article 100 definition of this term. then you would need to know the locations in the NEC where a qualfied person is requred.
Re: Licensing
CA has allowed some loopholes and it depends on locality as to enforcement.
CSLB requires license for contracting
homeowners get to pull own permits. Inspectors do not check credentials of workers.
Gen Contractors do some of their own wiring, as well as HVAC cont., plumbers, alarm installers, etc.
But this is going to change, we will see what and how the new law is enforced.
paul
CA has allowed some loopholes and it depends on locality as to enforcement.
CSLB requires license for contracting
homeowners get to pull own permits. Inspectors do not check credentials of workers.
Gen Contractors do some of their own wiring, as well as HVAC cont., plumbers, alarm installers, etc.
But this is going to change, we will see what and how the new law is enforced.
paul
goldstar
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- New Jersey
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- Electrical Contractor
Re: Licensing
I don't believe that the NEC addresses that issue specifically (as other respondents have pointed out). It really comes down to a question of liability. I believe that in most states homeowners are permitted to do electrical work on their own primary residences but they can't contract with the public to do work on other residences or do commercial work.
If you stop and think about contractual obligations (in general), if I contract with my neighbor to upgrade his/her electrical service I will take out a permit, do the work and get it inspected. If any problems (or God forbid a fire) occur thereafter I am covered by my insurance. In contrast, if I walk over to my neighbor's house, while HE/SHE is upgrading their electrical service, and offer to lend a hand and/or offer some advice, if any of the aforementioned situations occur - HE/SHE can sue me personally.
Plumbers, general contractors, handymen, etc. all know the limit of their abilities, but it starts getting dangerous when they begin dabbling in electrical work. I can't begin to tell you how many times I find AC cables stubbed into plastic , nail-on boxes, wires spliced in open air and ungrounded in attics, std. RX cable direct buried 6" in front lawns to cite a few instances.
Of course, if you don't pull a permit - I guess you can do anything you want to !!!
I don't believe that the NEC addresses that issue specifically (as other respondents have pointed out). It really comes down to a question of liability. I believe that in most states homeowners are permitted to do electrical work on their own primary residences but they can't contract with the public to do work on other residences or do commercial work.
If you stop and think about contractual obligations (in general), if I contract with my neighbor to upgrade his/her electrical service I will take out a permit, do the work and get it inspected. If any problems (or God forbid a fire) occur thereafter I am covered by my insurance. In contrast, if I walk over to my neighbor's house, while HE/SHE is upgrading their electrical service, and offer to lend a hand and/or offer some advice, if any of the aforementioned situations occur - HE/SHE can sue me personally.
Plumbers, general contractors, handymen, etc. all know the limit of their abilities, but it starts getting dangerous when they begin dabbling in electrical work. I can't begin to tell you how many times I find AC cables stubbed into plastic , nail-on boxes, wires spliced in open air and ungrounded in attics, std. RX cable direct buried 6" in front lawns to cite a few instances.
Of course, if you don't pull a permit - I guess you can do anything you want to !!!
Re: Licensing
thanks to all for your answers. I am well aware of the liability issues and such and have tried to explain them to a contractor hired by the City. they demand to see it in writing and our City codes refer to Sate and Federal codes. so I am trying to find it for them in writing. we always have expected all contractors to have licenses or their subs to maintain professional licenses for specialized work...it's really a hassel trying to get ma and pa contractors to abide by rules and professional code of conduct.
Thanks again for your help.
thanks to all for your answers. I am well aware of the liability issues and such and have tried to explain them to a contractor hired by the City. they demand to see it in writing and our City codes refer to Sate and Federal codes. so I am trying to find it for them in writing. we always have expected all contractors to have licenses or their subs to maintain professional licenses for specialized work...it's really a hassel trying to get ma and pa contractors to abide by rules and professional code of conduct.
Thanks again for your help.
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