Life saftey requirement for Shell & Core building

[faresos]

Hello every one...I'm working on courthouse house building (9- stories) and it will be build on a top of another building (detention center, one story building). Both building are new construction, and they will build the detention center first as a complete construction and they also will build the courthouse but only Shell and Core because of the budgeting. The shell and core will includes electrical risers, elevators, some mechanical units. My questions are:

1. Since this is a shell & core building and it won't be occupied at this time, I'll be providing temprary lighting (string light bulbs like they use for temperary power). Do I need to provide any kind of emergency lights in the space?each space like about 40,000SF and is open. I'll be providing emergency lights and exit signs in the stairs.

2. How about fire alarm devices? I'll be providing only pull stations at stairs exit. Do I need to provide strobe lights at all open spaces? how about smoke detectors? do I need to provide any in all open spaces?

Thank you all

 

[raider1]

1. Since this is a shell & core building and it won't be occupied at this time, I'll be providing temprary lighting (string light bulbs like they use for temperary power). Do I need to provide any kind of emergency lights in the space?each space like about 40,000SF and is open. I'll be providing emergency lights and exit signs in the stairs.

2. How about fire alarm devices? I'll be providing only pull stations at stairs exit. Do I need to provide strobe lights at all open spaces? how about smoke detectors? do I need to provide any in all open spaces?

These are questions only the building department can answer. The NEC doesn't specify where emergency lighting or fire alarm devices are to be installed.

Again I would talk with the inspector or building official to answer your question.

Chris

 

[charlie b]

I agree with Chris. But I would venture to guess that none of this would be required. The space cannot be occupied, until more work (i.e., the TI) is done. So there is no need to tell the occupants how to get out of the space, nor to tell the occupants that they need to get out of the space. At least, that is what makes sense to me. But the bottom line is that the rule is the rule, so you need to find out what the rule (i.e., the building code) really says.

 

[bwyllie]

i would suggest installing a few indicating devices on the floors as well. The fire department has requested these even in core and shell buildings because there is a chance people will be on the floor viewing the space or workers from other floors having lunch, etc.

 

[steve66]

Like Chris said, talk to your building official.

I have often got by with the same reasoning Charlie used. If the area is locked, and off limits to everyone unless the building managment lets them in, then the space is not occupied.

However, with a 10 story building, you might need to take more precautions (even if it is only for the maintenance guy or contractors). Your building inspector will probably fall somewhere between the two extremes of providing nothing, or providing a full ADA compliant system on every unoccupied floor.

BTW - I think (but haven't looked) the light strings can only stay up for 90 days. You might look it up in the "temporary" section of the code.

Steve