Light Bulbs -- truth in advertising?

[drcampbell]

Now that incandescant lightbulbs are just about completely obsolete, can anybody recommend a line of lightbulbs that does NOT put the incandescent-equivalent-wattage on the package?
I'm growing weary of telling people that the lumen, not the watt, is a measure of light output, but the marketing people aren't making my life any easier.

 

[Besoeker3]

Now that incandescant lightbulbs are just about completely obsolete, can anybody recommend a line of lightbulbs that does NOT put the incandescent-equivalent-wattage on the package?
I'm growing weary of telling people that the lumen, not the watt, is a measure of light output, but the marketing people aren't making my life any easier.

9.1W

 

[drcampbell]

Everybody prints it on the bulb. Wilko's as guilty as all the rest when it comes to the package.

 

[hillbilly1]

It’s ingrained in the public, when you wanted more light from an incandescent fixture, you naturally upped the wattage. The average person that is not in the industry, looks at it that way. They don’t know what a lumen is, but they know how bright their 60 watt light bulb is.

 

[gadfly56]

It’s ingrained in the public, when you wanted more light from an incandescent fixture, you naturally upped the wattage. The average person that is not in the industry, looks at it that way. They don’t know what a lumen is, but they know how bright their 60 watt light bulb is.

The amusing thing is that even when incandescents were the only game in town, a 100 watt light bulb could be anywhere from 850 to 1100 lumens with similar variation in hours. I finally started calculating and buying on the lowest cost per lumen-hour.

 

[Besoeker3]

It’s ingrained in the public, when you wanted more light from an incandescent fixture, you naturally upped the wattage. The average person that is not in the industry, looks at it that way. They don’t know what a lumen is, but they know how bright their 60 watt light bulb is.

My bulb is 9.1W. I have several that are 15W. That is a very bright bulb. My Mrs has several in our lounge - she likes them for her art.

 

[gadfly56]

My bulb is 9.1W. I have several that are 15W. That is a very bright bulb. My Mrs has several in our lounge - she likes them for her art.

My preferred light level is "surgical operating suite."

 

[Besoeker3]

My preferred light level is "surgical operating suite."

OK. What kind of lamps are they?

 

[drcampbell]

It’s ingrained in the public ... They don’t know what a lumen is ...

I know the backstory. I'm trying to change that. So many of today's problems are the result of an ingrained failure to understand basic science, math & technology.

 

[mikeames]

I agree its frustrating. Especially since they are all different in lumen output its almost worthless. My new favorite is below although it does post the 250w equivalent. They have a great color temp and dim well. Not an incandescent type dim, but instead of the full 2100 lumens you can cut it down so very flexible. Great for 10 foot ceilings. I use them in my house.

 

[mikeames]

OK. What kind of lamps are they?

Above is one example.

 

[Besoeker3]

Above is one example.

Simply an LED then at 19.5W?

 

[mikeames]

Simply an LED then at 19.5W?

Yea but they seem to be a slight cut above the typical.

 

[Besoeker3]

Yea but they seem to be a slight cut above the typical.

Fairy nuff.
Seems quite expensive though.

 

[LarryFine]

Now that incandescant lightbulbs are just about completely obsolete, can anybody recommend a line of lightbulbs that does NOT put the incandescent-equivalent-wattage on the package?

It would seem that the wattage equivalent would make it easier, unless you're saying that wattage-equivalent is not equivalent.

 

[gadfly56]

It would seem that the wattage equivalent would make it easier, unless you're saying that wattage-equivalent is not equivalent.

As I said at post #5, I would find "100-watt" bulbs that were anywhere from 850 to 1,100 lumens so yeah, wattage equivalent isn't necessarily equivalent.

 

[hillbilly1]

As I said at post #5, I would find "100-watt" bulbs that were anywhere from 850 to 1,100 lumens so yeah, wattage equivalent isn't necessarily equivalent.

And the long life ones are sneaky about being 140 volt, so your not actually burning 100 watts, and nowhere near the lumens!

 

[petersonra]

Fairy nuff.
Seems quite expensive though.

they protect your wallet by limiting you to buying 25 at a time.

 

[Besoeker3]

It would seem that the wattage equivalent would make it easier, unless you're saying that wattage-equivalent is not equivalent.

I don't see why the wattage equivalent be any easier. Why not just the actual? That's what I use. But then I can see old pharts (and some not so old) want some kind of "equivalence|" to to old style...........
Bit like their old Imperial weights and measures....................

 

[gadfly56]

I don't see why the wattage equivalent be any easier. Why not just the actual? That's what I use. But then I can see old pharts (and some not so old) want some kind of "equivalence|" to to old style...........
Bit like their old Imperial weights and measures....................

Oy now!! We resemble that remark!