Light fixture in shower

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Is this acceptable?

Fluorescent light fixture above shower head. Bottom of the fixture is exactly 8 ft from the bottom of the tub. Fixture is not rated for a damp location.

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It must be at least 8' from the top of the shower threshold not the floor of the shower stall. I say it is not code compliant
 
kornbln said:
Is this acceptable?

Fluorescent light fixture above shower head. Bottom of the fixture is exactly 8 ft from the bottom of the tub. Fixture is not rated for a damp location.

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Kind funny , I had a thread similar to this one. The article you need is 2005 NEC 410.4 (D) Bathtub and Shower Areas.

Also check out this thread, it may need gfci protection as well.

http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=98579
 
Dennis Alwon said:
It must be at least 8' from the top of the shower threshold not the floor of the shower stall. I say it is not code compliant
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Not sure I understand what you mean... Let me rephrase. It's 8 ft from the bottom of the tub (where the drain is)
 
kornbln said:
Not sure I understand what you mean... Let me rephrase. It's 8 ft from the bottom of the tub (where the drain is)
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Check this out

nec 410.4 (d) said:
(D) Bathtub and Shower Areas. No parts of cord-connected luminaires, chain-, cable-, or cord-suspended luminaires, lighting track, pendants, or ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall be located within a zone measured 900 mm (3 ft) horizontally and 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is all encompassing and includes the space directly over the tub or shower stall. Luminaires located within the actual outside dimension of the bathtub or shower to a height of 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower threshold shall be marked for damp locations, or marked for wet locations where subject to shower spray.
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wireman3736 said:
I don't think the 8' is a problem as it doesn't fit in the list of fixtures prohibited, the fact that it is not damp or wet rated would be a problem.
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This article is one of the most misunderstood art. in the NEC. The listed fixtures are not allowed at all in the zone.... If the fixture is out of the zone (8') then it does not need to be damp or wet location rated.
 
wireman3736 said:
the way the original poster put , it is within the 8"
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I agree we were just stating that it had to be measured from the threshold not the floor. If it were 8' from the floor it must be damp rated. If it is 8' from the threshold it does not require damp rating.
 
The odd thing is if it were a tub it would have to be 8' from the tub rim. How this affects the damp location rating is beyond me.

8' above the shower rim is about 8' 4" above the floor. 8' above the tub rim is about 10' off the floor.

I am guessing there are two things going on here. The ability to reach the fixture from the shower & tub and the damp rating. Seems like something is amiss.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
The odd thing is if it were a tub it would have to be 8' from the tub rim. How this affects the damp location rating is beyond me.

8' above the shower rim is about 8' 4" above the floor. 8' above the tub rim is about 10' off the floor.

I am guessing there are two things going on here. The ability to reach the fixture from the shower & tub and the damp rating. Seems like something is amiss.
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Now this part i will agree with this one i feel like it should rewritten this [ beep ] thing.

really IMO my main condersation is condensation from shower can affect the luminaire and what more that is semi open bottom luminaire and if the glass decided to shattred or cracked you will have some glass will fly out bottom of the lens or screen.

I know this been brought up few time for last few weeks what ya guys think we should rewrite the section again to clear up the garbage we been eating on this one ??

Merci,Marc
 
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