Listed cable ties for supporting AC Cable

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In the 2017 NEC...
320.30 Securing and Supporting.
(A) General. Type AC cable shall be supported and secured by staples; cable ties listed and identified for securement and support;....
Are these cable ties available?
(this question was asked earlier this year, looking for an update)
Similar rules in MC, FMC, etc
 
Is there something stamped on or embossed on the cable tie so that an inspector will know if it is an approved tie ? What I'm getting at is will you have to provide proof that the cable ties you used were approved or will it be self-evident ?
 
goldstar said:
Is there something stamped on or embossed on the cable tie so that an inspector will know if it is an approved tie ? What I'm getting at is will you have to provide proof that the cable ties you used were approved or will it be self-evident ?
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It would probably be like fire caulk, you would have to provide the packaging if asked. In the front of UL directories it explains that the packaging is where the listing info is on certain items.

Roger
 
I see this as a boon for some EI's. I'm convinced that there are some EI's out that who carry with them a pamphlet entitled "How to Break An Electrician's Chops". This cable tie Code ruling will be listed as one of the categories.

I understand the need for a Code ruling like this because countries like China are dumping a wealth of garbage products on our markets. But, in all fairness a company like Panduit will charge about $25 for a package of 100 cable ties whereas HD will charge $25 for a package of 1000. As long as they make a product that attractive to buy, people are going to buy it.

I'm not sure what it's like in other parts of the country but here in NJ electricians are cutting each other's throats for jobs. Cutting costs in as many areas as possible is one of the ways to get the job in the first place, IMHO.
 
goldstar said:
I see this as a boon for some EI's. I'm convinced that there are some EI's out that who carry with them a pamphlet entitled "How to Break An Electrician's Chops". This cable tie Code ruling will be listed as one of the categories.

I understand the need for a Code ruling like this because countries like China are dumping a wealth of garbage products on our markets. But, in all fairness a company like Panduit will charge about $25 for a package of 100 cable ties whereas HD will charge $25 for a package of 1000. As long as they make a product that attractive to buy, people are going to buy it.

I'm not sure what it's like in other parts of the country but here in NJ electricians are cutting each other's throats for jobs. Cutting costs in as many areas as possible is one of the ways to get the job in the first place, IMHO.
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Even worse than that, someone tell me, does this now mean we can't use tie wire to secure MC? That is what I am reading. If so, this trade is starting to get ridiculous.
 
roger said:
It would probably be like fire caulk, you would have to provide the packaging if asked. In the front of UL directories it explains that the packaging is where the listing info is on certain items.

Roger
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So you will now have guys keeping around one package to show to the inspector that has the correct information on it but what they have actually been using came out of different packages:slaphead:
 
Strathead said:
Even worse than that, someone tell me, does this now mean we can't use tie wire to secure MC? That is what I am reading. If so, this trade is starting to get ridiculous.
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The change does not reflect on the use of tie wire, it only says that cable ties have to be listed. Staples, straps, etc merely have to be approved as before.
 
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