lOAD CALCS ON EXTENDED STAY FACILITIES

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I am calculating the loads for a new extended stay facility. All the rooms are suites with separate sleeping areas and cooking facilities. Each unit has a small cooktop, dishwasher, disposal and bar type fridge. There is no separate water heater. Hot water is supplied by the motel central HWH. The heat/cool is an under window combo type. Since this meets the definition of a dwelling unit do I have to compute the suites area as I would an apartment house with a minimum 100 A service in each unit. It seems to me there is an exception to this which allows the unit panel to be reduced to 60A.
Am I correct?

Thanks
 
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First of all, do you really have a service to each suite, or are they feeders? If they are feeders, see 225.39(D). This requires the feeder to have a disconnect rated 60A or more. (Notice that these suites are not one-family dewlings, and 225.39(C) doesn't apply - see definitions in article 100). I can't find any code reference that requires the feeder to be 60 Amps (there may be one that I just can't find right now.)

If you really have a service, then 230.79 is basically the same thing (60 Amp disconnect required). In addition, 230.42(B) would require the service conductors to be 60A.

In short, I don't find anything that would require 100A feeders or service condutors.

Steve
 
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Pierre:

I may have misunderstood the title of 225. Does "Outside Branch Circuits and Feeders" apply to all feeders, or is it only for "Outside feeders"? I guess since there is a separate article for feeders, it would only apply to "outside feeders".

Still, I'm not sure these feeders or service conductors circuis is asking about are inside.
STeve
 
Re: lOAD CALCS ON EXTENDED STAY FACILITIES

Originally posted by steve66:
Pierre:

I may have misunderstood the title of 225. Does "Outside Branch Circuits and Feeders" apply to all feeders, or is it only for "Outside feeders"? STeve
Take a look at section 225.1, which is the scope of article 225.
 
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