Load calculation for generator auxilary equipment

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mull982

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I am currently performing a load calculation for a 240V feeder which supplies auxiliary loads in a MV generator (heaters, lighting, pumps, etc...) Without an accurate up to date inventory of all the loads we monitored the feeder with a meter for a few hours with both the generator running, and idle, in order to capture the maximum loading. We found that the maximum loading on this circuit was 17A during the monitoring period.

There are (4) of these generators and we are re-installing feeders to these generators from a new panel which is going to be added. (Abandoning current feeder configuration) So there will be a new 240V panel with feeder breakers out to each of the (4) generators with spare breakers in the panel available for receptacles that may be added in the room where the panel is located. I had a couple of questions that I wanted to get input on.

1) There are receptacles located in the generator enclosures that did not have anything plugged into them during our monitoring period. How would you account for any additional load that my be plugged into receptacles? Is there a standard VA rating that can be applied to receptacles in the load calc for this application?

2) Same as #1 above the new panel that that is being installed to feeder the generator aux loads will have spare breakers available for receptacle and "general use" within the room where the panel will be located. For this case is there a load rating or multiplying factor that you would add to the panel load calc to account for these future loads? Or is this just a matter of using your calculated loads and selecting a panel size that has spare room to handle any future loads?

3) When selecting the panel size I'm thinking that we would add up the loads (17A * 4 = 68A) and select a panel size that would be big enough and still have spare capacity for adding receptacles etc... as I mentioned above. In this case would 100A panel be adequate leaving only 22A for spare future loads, or should a 200A panel be chosen?

4) The 240V panel will be fed from an new upstream 480V-240V transformer. What is the rule of thumb for selecting this transformer size based on the downstream loading. For example lets say I end up selecting a 200A panel, should I size the transformer for the full capacity of the 200A panel, or only the calculated load on this panel based on the above discussions? What is the typical loading factor of a transformer when selecting the size of the transformer. For instance should you select a transformer size that is as close as possible to the calculated load, or to you select a large size to leave spare capacity for future loads (25%, 50%, etc.. spare capacity).

Thanks for the help.
 

mull982

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I believe there is somewhere in the NEC that uses 180VA for receptacles. Would you apply this value to some of the receptacle calculations I mentioned above?
 

JRW 70

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Gen. Support Loads

Gen. Support Loads

It is good design practice to exceed the article cited above.
Think about how much the block heaters need (if they are
plug in units) and especially battery chargers. Once the
engine lights off, it will take care of the heat. But for the
charging system for the batteries, be sure to keep them on.
Some generators have an alternator on the engine seperate
from the power generator (main alternator) that keeps the
control system (governor to control the cycles per second)
functioning. In some other equipment, control power
is unfortunately drawn from the starting battery rather than
the generator itself. When this is the case the charger also
is the source of control power.
And lastly, are these Aux. receptacles powered by the generators
during a utility outage (on the output of the transfer gear?)
If they are not, the run time will be the length of the battery
charge. After the batteries go low, erratic behavior usually starts
soon after.
And to your question on transformer sizing, a 100% rating
or slightly above (if there is intent to add further generators
or support equipment) It might be good to go a little over if
the transformers will experience high heat levels also.

Hopefully this re-work of the circuits goes well.

JR
 
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mull982

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It is good design practice to exceed the article cited above.
Think about how much the block heaters need (if they are
plug in units) and especially battery chargers. Once the
engine lights off, it will take care of the heat. But for the
charging system for the batteries, be sure to keep them on.
Some generators have an alternator on the engine seperate
from the power generator (main alternator) that keeps the
control system (governor to control the cycles per second)
functioning. In some other equipment, control power
is unfortunately drawn from the starting battery rather than
the generator itself. When this is the case the charger also
is the source of control power.
And lastly, are these Aux. receptacles powered by the generators
during a utility outage (on the output of the transfer gear?)
If they are not, the run time will be the length of the battery
charge. After the batteries go low, erratic behavior usually starts
soon after.
And to your question on transformer sizing, a 100% rating
or slightly above (if there is intent to add further generators
or support equipment) It might be good to go a little over if
the transformers will experience high heat levels also.

Hopefully this re-work of the circuits goes well.

JR

All the loads you mentioned above do not get plugged into a receptacle but are fed from the circuit which we are replacing and were already accounted for in the load monitoring/calculation.

If we use 180VA for general receptacles should we include this factor in our load calcs or simply plan for several of these receptacles and designate a 20A breaker to feed receptacles.

Is there a rule of thumb for planning for "spare" auxiliary loads such as when a customer says leave me some spare's for stuff like receptacles, and other auxiliary loads, etc.....
 

JRW 70

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Location
Eastern Central Missouri
Occupation
Testing and Engineer
The only other thing I would consider (since the
other circuits are directly wired) would be any
service equipment needed for generator repair
operations during extended run time.
Otherwise what you have planned should be fine.
(in terms of general purpose recpts.)

JR
 
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