Low voltage indoor lighting compliance???

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clint2000

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We are doing a project in which the owner now wants to use indoor 12volt AC lighting such as recessed and some types of low profile luminaries in conjunction with his other line voltage lighting system. The lighting system will require remote transformers and separate wiring to the luminaries. We do not typically do such an extensive system like this and were not able to find a sub who wanted to or could, due to the location of the project. I am wondering are there any guides that can be downloaded or purchased online as a reference in conjunction to the NEC?
Some of the questions we have are do the 600 and 900 watt transformers need secondary protection since the primary to secondary ratio and % primary fusing are as such. The 600w transformers are 120-12volt and although rated at 600w are only listed to have a connected secondary load of 25amps. Also does all the secondary wiring have to be in conduit or can it be typical NM. Yet we were wondering is it the standard practice to switch the transformers on and off allowing the use of line voltage switches which could be ganged in the same switch boxes as the other line voltage luminaries in the dwelling or would the inrush current potentially trip the circuit breaker when the lights were turned on and off since every transformer would not be on its own circuit. We will be using the fiberglass nail on boxes with the barriers in them for the smaller gangs but couldn?t locate barriers for ganged jem boxes. Thank you for your suggestions.
 
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It sounds like you are making this a little more complicated then it needs to be...First of all, for the secondary wiring, you can use any Ch 3 method, so Romex, EMT, or MC are all OK. You do need to relaize that your wires will be running at up to 25A, and VD is a huge concern with these types of systems, so I always use at least #10 wire, with #8 or 6 being neccesary at times to control VD. The NEC mandates 25A max, so if you are using a 12V system, this is 300W per secondary cirucit. If you are using a 900W transformer, you will have to break out the secondary into 3 25A individually fused secondary circuits. I use units by Q-Tran that have all of this built in, if you haven't bought your transformers yet, they are worth a look.

As for switching/dimming, it is typical to switch the primary (120V) of the transformer, never the secondary. You do not need to partition your boxes or anything like that, just run the feeds to the transformers from your switches. Inrush can be a problem, I usually dim LV lighting...but don't load your circuits up too much, and you should be OK. If you still have inrush tripping problems, try a HM breaker (High Magnetic).

In sumamry, make sure you do not exceed 25A per secondary run, use at least #10 wire, and keep voltage drop in mind, you only have 12V to work with, and 25A line currents will cause your drop to get big quick.

mike
 
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For a reference on NEC rules, I highly recommend Mike Holts 2005 Understanding Low Voltage and Power Limited Systems. Its one of the best texts he has done.
 
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clint,
with today's selection of recessed low voltage fixtures and costs -- why not use individual fixtures and run line voltage to them. it will be a better installation and the labor and materials will balance out the cost of the fixtures.................$.02.
 
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Thanks for the input, sorry for the delay here. I have Mike Holt?s 2005 Understanding Low Voltage and Power Limited Systems. Indeed it is informative. Thanks for the overview too. I think the owner has these very specific units he wants throughout the project. At least it seems that way because we outlined the impact for the 60?-85? runs of low voltage (due to the style of construction and demands he has) and he still wants what he wants. Okay then?


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