Master Electrician License?
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It is a license to perform electrical installation work. It is not related to an engineering degree, and it is not a license to practice professional engineering in the electrical discipline.
In the State of Washington, it is a combination license, incorporating the ?Journeyman Electrician? and the ?Electrical Administrator? into a single license. The Electrical Administrator is the person (one and only one in any single contracting company) who is responsible for monitoring the work of all electrical work, and for assuring code compliance and safe work practices.
It is a license to perform electrical installation work. It is not related to an engineering degree, and it is not a license to practice professional engineering in the electrical discipline.
In the State of Washington, it is a combination license, incorporating the ?Journeyman Electrician? and the ?Electrical Administrator? into a single license. The Electrical Administrator is the person (one and only one in any single contracting company) who is responsible for monitoring the work of all electrical work, and for assuring code compliance and safe work practices.
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Then who would be held responsible for the electrical engineering on a particular job, where an Electrical Engineer hasn't been employed?
I have been on several jobs where the engineering has been lacking, or non-existant. Doesn't the Electrical Engineering then become the responsibility of the Master Electrician? Just what is the difference between an Electrical Engineer and a License Master Electrician, considering that they both use the same reference materials in the performance of their jobs?
Then who would be held responsible for the electrical engineering on a particular job, where an Electrical Engineer hasn't been employed?
I have been on several jobs where the engineering has been lacking, or non-existant. Doesn't the Electrical Engineering then become the responsibility of the Master Electrician? Just what is the difference between an Electrical Engineer and a License Master Electrician, considering that they both use the same reference materials in the performance of their jobs?
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
Re: Master Electrician License?
Not all projects require ?engineering,? but all require that decisions be made. The person responsible for a decision is the person who made the decision. But to clarify the use of our terms, no person is permitted to offer ?engineering services,? unless that person is licensed as a ?Professional Engineer? by the state in which the installation (not the design work) will take place.
It is a question of fact and a question of local rules, as to whether a Licensed Professional Engineer will be required to make the design decisions, and to sign and seal the related plans and specs. In general, if one company prepares the design and a different company performs the installation, you need a PE. By contrast, a Design/Build company can often make all the design decisions, and can perform the installation, without consulting with a PE, and without obtaining signed and sealed drawings. By contrast again, some cities and some types of facilities will require signed and sealed drawings, even if the design and construction are by the same company.
Four years learning ?Why,? as opposed to four years learning ?How.?
Not all projects require ?engineering,? but all require that decisions be made. The person responsible for a decision is the person who made the decision. But to clarify the use of our terms, no person is permitted to offer ?engineering services,? unless that person is licensed as a ?Professional Engineer? by the state in which the installation (not the design work) will take place.
It is a question of fact and a question of local rules, as to whether a Licensed Professional Engineer will be required to make the design decisions, and to sign and seal the related plans and specs. In general, if one company prepares the design and a different company performs the installation, you need a PE. By contrast, a Design/Build company can often make all the design decisions, and can perform the installation, without consulting with a PE, and without obtaining signed and sealed drawings. By contrast again, some cities and some types of facilities will require signed and sealed drawings, even if the design and construction are by the same company.
No. If there a requirement that electrical engineering be performed, then the work must be done by an electrical engineer who is a licensed PE, and that person becomes responsible for the design. Please note, however, that if the Master Electrician does not build the exact thing that the PE designed, and does not get approval from the PE to make the changes, then the Master Electrician takes on the responsibility for the changes.
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