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Maximum circuit length

M.ABDULLATIEF

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Location
Egypt
I have a project which has all branch circuit fed from MCCB, how to calculate the maximum length for the circuits to be protected with the circuit breaker
 

M.ABDULLATIEF

Member
Location
Egypt
i need a general equation or rule to calculate the maximum allowable length, based on voltage drop it's ok for me to calculate, but i need this query regarding to short circuit protection in breaker,

in my current case I have 16A MCCB with below attached TCC, and the wire size is 4mm2 Cu/LS0H, the voltage system is 230/400 V, the length i want to check is 190m is ok or not?
 

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Fred B

Senior Member
Location
Upstate, NY
Occupation
Electrician
A 15 amp CB can protect a 2000' circuit.

You need to give us more information. What size wires? What is the current? How long? VD constraints?
also AFCI GFCI have a length limit for the circuit. 210.12(A)(3),(4).
Voltage drop over the distance can negatively effect the operation.
 

Fred B

Senior Member
Location
Upstate, NY
Occupation
Electrician
i need a general equation or rule to calculate the maximum allowable length, based on voltage drop it's ok for me to calculate, but i need this query regarding to short circuit protection in breaker,

in my current case I have 16A MCCB with below attached TCC, and the wire size is 4mm2 Cu/LS0H, the voltage system is 230/400 V, the length i want to check is 190m is ok or not?
Are you trying to minimize the AFC?
 

jim dungar

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Location
Wisconsin
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PE (Retired) - Power Systems
Is this for North American installations? You mention short circuit protection and you show a European breaker curve.

In the US and Canada, we do not need to worry about conductor and breaker coordination because of the way our products are extensively tested together to a single standard by a testing agency like UL. We simply need to match the nominal rating of the breaker with the ampacity of the conductor based on the tables in our National Electrical Codes.

About the only circuit length concern we have is voltage drop.
 

don_resqcapt19

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Location
Illinois
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retired electrician
also AFCI GFCI have a length limit for the circuit. 210.12(A)(3),(4).
Voltage drop over the distance can negatively effect the operation.
There is no length limit for GFCIs, the the AFCI limit is only very a very specific installation method using an AFCI receptacle.
 
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