meter base installation
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charlie
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Re: meter base installation
The electromechanical meters would run backward if inserted upside down. The new electronic meters will not run backward. Even so, the serving electric utility will most likely insist on the top of the meter fitting being the line side and the bottom will be the load side. If not wired that way, I would bet you would not be energized.
The electromechanical meters would run backward if inserted upside down. The new electronic meters will not run backward. Even so, the serving electric utility will most likely insist on the top of the meter fitting being the line side and the bottom will be the load side. If not wired that way, I would bet you would not be energized.
bill addiss
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Re: meter base installation
Not related, but..
Our Utility also has an objection to Line and Load wires crossing over each other within the enclosure.
Bill
Not related, but..
Our Utility also has an objection to Line and Load wires crossing over each other within the enclosure.
Bill
bill addiss
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Re: meter base installation
Bennie,
We do use Bases approved for UG service.
There is only one type (and size) approved for Residential services 100 thru 200 Amps. It is approved for either UG or OH services. It has a Bypass lever on the right side, which means that the Line conductors must enter and come up on the left side.
Sometimes it's a bit tricky changing out an older setup where it came in on the right side.
Bill
Bennie,
We do use Bases approved for UG service.
There is only one type (and size) approved for Residential services 100 thru 200 Amps. It is approved for either UG or OH services. It has a Bypass lever on the right side, which means that the Line conductors must enter and come up on the left side.
Sometimes it's a bit tricky changing out an older setup where it came in on the right side.
Bill
hurk27
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Re: meter base installation
Here in Indiana we use a universal 200amp millbank type.
It has a cover plate for the hole in the top where the overhead hub would go for an overhead service. but dont put the drop pipe in the center k/o or you will have a very unhappy lineman all over you. and maybe not even hook you up.
The one on the left:
[ May 16, 2003, 01:03 AM: Message edited by: hurk27 ]
Here in Indiana we use a universal 200amp millbank type.
It has a cover plate for the hole in the top where the overhead hub would go for an overhead service. but dont put the drop pipe in the center k/o or you will have a very unhappy lineman all over you. and maybe not even hook you up.
The one on the left:
[ May 16, 2003, 01:03 AM: Message edited by: hurk27 ]
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Re: meter base installation
[ May 16, 2003, 04:34 AM: Message edited by: iwire ]
Why is that, what is their reasoning not to let you use intended hub?
[ May 16, 2003, 04:34 AM: Message edited by: iwire ]
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Re: meter base installation
Wayne,
If you can't use the top hole for an overhead service, where do you enter the enclosure?
Don
Wayne,
If you can't use the top hole for an overhead service, where do you enter the enclosure?
Don
charlie
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Re: meter base installation
Depending on the electric utility, some will not allow certain meter fittings to be used for OH or UG services. This one looks like it may be used or OH or UG. The plate is for use where it is used for UG service. Where used for UG, the center KO may not be used. This will allow for the service conductors to wrap around the jaws with plenty of training room. For an OH service, you would not use the plate and would bolt a hub for the service entrance conductors to enter.
Bill, so do we in cabinets with transformer rated metering (CT's) but not with self contained metering.
Depending on the electric utility, some will not allow certain meter fittings to be used for OH or UG services. This one looks like it may be used or OH or UG. The plate is for use where it is used for UG service. Where used for UG, the center KO may not be used. This will allow for the service conductors to wrap around the jaws with plenty of training room. For an OH service, you would not use the plate and would bolt a hub for the service entrance conductors to enter.
bill addiss
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Re: meter base installation
Charlie,
Yes, our OH/UG meter pans are similar in style to the left one in photo with the Hub closure plate on top, and are required to be a minimum of 13" wide.
Bill
[ May 16, 2003, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: bill addiss ]
Charlie,
Yes, our OH/UG meter pans are similar in style to the left one in photo with the Hub closure plate on top, and are required to be a minimum of 13" wide.
Bill
[ May 16, 2003, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: bill addiss ]
Re: meter base installation
I think Wayne is talking about the pipe for an UG. If you use the center bottom K-O it is real hard for the PoCo guys to turn the 4/0 URD real short to go around to the top of the meterbase. All of Indiana doesn't let you use the Millbank. AEP requires Midwest and for an UG you have to provide 2-1/2" sched. 80 PVC minimum for their service lateral. Henry Co. REMC supplies a Durham or what ever was the cheapest the last time they bought a skid of them. T&B quit making meterbases all together last year(Anchor) and that's what Cinergy would spec.
I think Wayne is talking about the pipe for an UG. If you use the center bottom K-O it is real hard for the PoCo guys to turn the 4/0 URD real short to go around to the top of the meterbase. All of Indiana doesn't let you use the Millbank. AEP requires Midwest and for an UG you have to provide 2-1/2" sched. 80 PVC minimum for their service lateral. Henry Co. REMC supplies a Durham or what ever was the cheapest the last time they bought a skid of them. T&B quit making meterbases all together last year(Anchor) and that's what Cinergy would spec.
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Re: meter base installation
Nevermind.
[ May 16, 2003, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
Nevermind.
[ May 16, 2003, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
hurk27
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Re: meter base installation
Amptech you got me right I did forget to say which type of service I was talking about but it was about U/G and NIPSCO did stop supplying meters but there is a bill on the books that might make it law for them to supply them. we do install REMC services and they supply a Durham with a bypass lever but they have hooked up to some milbanks when we installed them by mistake. but they do tell us where they want the service, and they will not hook up to a service that is not a 200 amp even if the meter is a 200 the main disconect has to be too.
problem with NIPSCO is they have a few linemen that for what ever resone they think we are suppose to have a 3" drop pipe on a 200 and it wont fit then we have to call his supers to get them to hook the service up.
Amptech you got me right I did forget to say which type of service I was talking about but it was about U/G and NIPSCO did stop supplying meters but there is a bill on the books that might make it law for them to supply them. we do install REMC services and they supply a Durham with a bypass lever but they have hooked up to some milbanks when we installed them by mistake. but they do tell us where they want the service, and they will not hook up to a service that is not a 200 amp even if the meter is a 200 the main disconect has to be too.
problem with NIPSCO is they have a few linemen that for what ever resone they think we are suppose to have a 3" drop pipe on a 200 and it wont fit then we have to call his supers to get them to hook the service up.
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