Meter feeding multiple suites

[Machiavelli999]

A tenant in a building with a multi-meter switchboard is going over their allotment of power. They proposed paying the bill of a neighboring tenant and being able to tap into their panel for their loads. I couldn't really find anything preventing this in the code, but it doesn't seem legal.

Any thoughts?

 

[jap]

Common sense would prevent this if nothing else.

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[petersonra]

A tenant in a building with a multi-meter switchboard is going over their allotment of power. They proposed paying the bill of a neighboring tenant and being able to tap into their panel for their loads. I couldn't really find anything preventing this in the code, but it doesn't seem legal.

Any thoughts?

Why can't they just increase his feeder size?

 

[jap]

Why can't they just increase his feeder size?

That may not be as easy as it sounds.

My question would be "How does the Tennant have any say over this in the first place" ?

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[petersonra]

That may not be as easy as it sounds.

My question would be "How does the Tennant have any say over this in the first place" ?

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Someone would have had to do a load calculation for this tenant. If it was not done correctly that is not the tenants fault.

 

[jap]

Someone would have had to do a load calculation for this tenant. If it was not done correctly that is not the tenants fault.

No, it's not the tenants fault, but, paying the neighboring tenants electric bill and tapping into their panel for needed circuits is not the tenant's decision to make.

It's up to the owner to decide the best way to resolve this.

The bill is not the only concern.

The disconnection of power between 2 separate tenant spaces fed from 2 different service disconnects may come into play also.

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[petersonra]

No, it's not the tenants fault, but, paying the neighboring tenants electric bill and tapping into their panel for needed circuits is not the tenant's decision to make.

It's up to the owner to decide the best way to resolve this.

The bill is not the only concern.

The disconnection of power between 2 separate tenant spaces fed from 2 different service disconnects may come into play also.

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How did it ever get to this point though? When the feeder was sized someone was supposed to have done a load calculation.

 

[augie47]

You might review 240.24(B) and the exceptions concerning occupant accessibility to assure compliance.

 

[Barbqranch]

Perhaps the tenant's load is "growing"?

 

[jap]

How did it ever get to this point though? When the feeder was sized someone was supposed to have done a load calculation.

Perhaps the tenant's load is "growing"?

Ditto this.

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[Machiavelli999]

How did it ever get to this point though? When the feeder was sized someone was supposed to have done a load calculation.

This is a new tenant moving into a shell space. The shell space has a 200A, 480V service going to it from a multi-tenant, multi-meter service switchboard. After assessing everything the tenant wants to put into their space, I determined the 200A/480V service is grossly insufficient.

They then suggested about the idea of tapping power from a neighbor's suite and everyone seems to be on board. It just seemed like a code violation to me, but the more I look into it, the more I think it is actually doable.

 

[jap]

A 200 amp 480v service to a lease space ?

Dang,,,, that would be sweet.

Most times all we come across is a 100 or 200 amp 120/208v 3ph service to a lease space if even that much.

And in those cases they want to put in a tanning salon.

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[WA_Sparky]

It does seem odd, but how would this request be any different than a house panel in a multi tenant building? Technically you can have equipment powered from a different meter in your space..