Michigan specific question

[paac]

Wanted to see if my reasoning is correct on this one.

In the State of Michigan, is the requirement of 210.8(B)(5) mandated for a dwelling unit air conditioner?

210.8(B)(5) points to 210.63 which points back to 210.8 for GFCI requirements in a FPN.

Michigan code, Part 8, rule 801 states, in part:

Rule 801. National electrical code; adoption by reference; inspection;
purchase.
The standards contained in the national electrical code, 2005 edition, except
sections 501.30B, 502.30B, 503.30B, 505.25B, 506.25B, 547.1 to 547.10, and
Annex G, as published by the national fire protection association, shall govern the
installation, replacement, alteration, relocation, and use of electrical systems or
material. With the exceptions noted, the national electrical code is adopted in these
rules by reference. Fine print notes contained within the body of the code are not
adopted as a part of the code. All references to the ANSI/ASME A17.1 2004, Safety
Code for Elevators and Escalators means the Michigan Elevator Code and all
references to the National Electrical Code means the Michigan Electrical Code. The
code is available for inspection at the Okemos office of the Michigan department of
labor and economic growth, bureau of construction codes.

I am assuming that this means that 210.8 does not apply to a receptacle for a dwelling unit air conditioner per michigan code. Any flaws in my logic?

This seems so simple, but for some reason I keep going back to it.

Thanks

 

[Ben Franklin]

The existence of the FPN in 210.63 does not make you exempt from Section 210.8, as 210.8 exists independent of the FPN.
By the way, FPN's are clearly identified by the NEC document as informative only, making the rule established by your state redundant and unnecessary.

 

[David C. Adkins]

I think your looking at an older code book
NEC 2008 210.8 (B) (5) Sinks.
NEC 2008 210.8 (B) (3) Rooftops.

A receptacle for a one or two family doesn't need a conveniount receptacle for airconditioning servicing, but a three family would require a GFI

 

[SEO]

The State of Michigan is on the 2005 NEC, Electrical Code Rules Part 8 and the 2006 Michigan Residental Code. For dwelling units use the 2006 MRC. For section 210.8(B)(5) use E3802.3 which states all 125-volt,single-phase,15 and 20-ampere receptacles installed outdoors shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel. For section 210.63 use E3801.11 HVAC outlet. A 125-volt, single-phase.15-or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and within 25 feet of the heating, and air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the HVAC equipment disconnecting means. So in answer to your question yes you have to have a gfi protected receptacle within 25 feet of your ac.

 

[paac]

The existence of the FPN in 210.63 does not make you exempt from Section 210.8, as 210.8 exists independent of the FPN.
By the way, FPN's are clearly identified by the NEC document as informative only, making the rule established by your state redundant and unnecessary.

Makes sense

I think your looking at an older code book
NEC 2008 210.8 (B) (5) Sinks.
NEC 2008 210.8 (B) (3) Rooftops.

Sorry, Michigan is using the 2005 code as SEO noted. I was going to include that, but forgot.

The State of Michigan is on the 2005 NEC, Electrical Code Rules Part 8 and the 2006 Michigan Residental Code. For dwelling units use the 2006 MRC. For section 210.8(B)(5) use E3802.3 which states all 125-volt,single-phase,15 and 20-ampere receptacles installed outdoors shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel. For section 210.63 use E3801.11 HVAC outlet. A 125-volt, single-phase.15-or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and within 25 feet of the heating, and air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the HVAC equipment disconnecting means. So in answer to your question yes you have to have a gfi protected receptacle within 25 feet of your ac.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew that we had to have it locally (Lapeer County), but I also remembered seeing the comment about FPN's.

Thanks again to all.