might be a little late but a good idea

[electricalperson]

i think they should put in writing that they require arc fault protection on lighting outlets in kitchens and bathrooms. i know in the real world people will come off of another circuit to feed those outlets but the code does not say you need it in those areas. i actually ran a seperate branch circuit to feed a ton of lights in the kitchen and i did not put those on arc faults. i dont think the inspector can fail it

 

[Dennis Alwon]

i think they should put in writing that they require arc fault protection on lighting outlets in kitchens and bathrooms. i know in the real world people will come off of another circuit to feed those outlets but the code does not say you need it in those areas. i actually ran a seperate branch circuit to feed a ton of lights in the kitchen and i did not put those on arc faults. i dont think the inspector can fail it

What about laundry room and crawl/ attic lights.

BTW. I have heard some people are having trouble with doorbell tranies and arc fault. You may want to avoid those cir. on the arc faults.

 

[joe205]

arc fault circuits

arc fault circuits

electrical person;
unless i'm behind times the 2005 nec does not require arc faults in kitchens.

 

[tom baker]

This forum is for proposals. You can make a proposal for the 14 NEC or wait until July and perhaps comment on a proposal for the 11 NEC.
By the way what you've proposed is in the 08 NEC.

 

[CopperTone]

electrical person;
unless i'm behind times the 2005 nec does not require arc faults in kitchens.

it is not required in 2008 either - that was the OP's point.
I purposely run a separate 15amp circuit for the kitchen lighting and I have started running a 20amp circuit to each bathroom and using that circuit to feed everything in that bathroom to avoid arc's there.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bathroom and kitchen lighting circuits added to arc's in the 2011 code

 

[electricalperson]

i think they should add the phrase lighting outlets in kitchens and baths. that was a big topic last night in class

 

[wawireguy]

I propose they remove the arc fault requirements!

 

[Karl H]

I propose they remove the arc fault requirements!

It will never happen.

 

[Karl H]

When GFCI's were introduced to the NEC ,everyone hated those too.

 

[dcspector]

By the way what you've proposed is in the 08 NEC.

Yep....similar rooms is the key word

 

[wirebender]

By the way what you've proposed is in the 08 NEC.

Yep....similar rooms is the key word

So y'all are saying all 120 volt, single phase, 15 and 20 amp branch circuits inside dwelling units require arc-fault?

 

[Hendrix]

i think they should put in writing that they require arc fault protection on lighting outlets in kitchens and bathrooms. i know in the real world people will come off of another circuit to feed those outlets but the code does not say you need it in those areas. i actually ran a seperate branch circuit to feed a ton of lights in the kitchen and i did not put those on arc faults. i dont think the inspector can fail it

No , he can't. It spells it out for you in the 08 Handbook on page 90, bottom of the page.

 

[dcspector]

NECH is enforceable?