Mike's Book , Electrical Estimating

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in mike's book page 80, in the bid analyisis labor $1,033 based on the units then on the labor analysis down below it says 97 hours / 16 hours 2 men ,, at $10,65, then on page 235 in the bid analysis based on the same labor rate $10.65 ,793.43 hrs page 233, the labor analysis says, page 235 4 men , i guess what I'm asking based on his units does it matter if we use 2 men or 4 men , when do we know when to up the labor rate per hours, based on the units? has mike got a book out ,that spells this out alittle better?

[ January 01, 2006, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: ImRodney ]
 
Re: Mike's Book , Electrical Estimating

97 hours / 16 hours 2 men
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I have the same book, Mike is showing how many 8 hour days it will take to do the job, same with the 794 hrs / 4 men one 8 hour day or 32 hrs = 24.81, if you use 2 men for the 794 / 2 men one 8 hour day or 16 hrs, it would take around 50 days, but the labor rate $10.65 stays the same.
 
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And the guys are only going to be working 1/4 of the time. So what are ya going to do, raise your labor rate or add it to burden?
 
Re: Mike's Book , Electrical Estimating

And the guys are only going to be working 1/4 of the time. So what are ya going to do, raise your labor rate or add it to burden?
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What! :confused:
 
Re: Mike's Book , Electrical Estimating

Commercial manpower estimates may be the weekest link in project plans.

For example, jokers may appear to acomplished nothing, but have the best job security. Especially, if they make everyone laugh while their joking off.

Risk takers may appear to accomplish a lot more, but tend to scare away sharp tallent. Especially, when setting the pace by skipping trench shoring, harnesses, loto, PPE, breaks, or watering.

IMO, commercial job bosses that ran everyone scared produced more risk takers, and more jobsite visits from OSHA.

Everyone wants labor performance, but with owners unclear which type of motivation works best, whipping or stroking, they seem willing to risk the huge fines (OSHA), just to watch the show.
 
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Everyone wants labor performance, but with owners unclear which type of motivation works best, whipping or stroking, they seem willing to risk the huge fines (OSHA), just to watch the show.
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What :confused: What does this have to do with the original question?

[ January 09, 2006, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: Jhr ]
 
Re: Mike's Book , Electrical Estimating

Me agrees with GUNNING:
"And the guys are only going to be working 1/4 of the time."
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(ie) Labor cost may be the most difficult part of estimating, or the most difficult to control. IMO Labor performance and motivation is one factor in the difficulty of estimating commercial projects.
 
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I agrees with Me, and Gunning now that I see what Me is driving at, but there has to be a standard estimating format that you can use to arrive at a competitive bid other wise you will sit and spin the brain and get nothing done, as far as motivation and controlling slackers that's called "JOB SUPERVISION", weed out the bad and reward the good. If the company makes money the employees get rewarded, and I'm not talking about a pen, t-shirt or ham, I'm talking about a good bonus in dollar bills. :cool: :cool:
 
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