Mikes Code Quizzes

[Dnkldorf]

How close are these to being worded like most tests?

Mike does a great job, with his questions, but I am wondering if the NJ test throws curve balls out there in their wording of questions.

 

[celtic]

Got a link to these questions?


Was this is?

http://www.mikeholt.com/productcategorylist.php?id=20&from=Products&title=Exam Preparation&year=2005

 

[Rockyd]

It would be this link -click here.

 

[hockeyoligist2]

I don't know about NJ but SC does throw a lot of curves. But not the same ones. I think Mike's tests are good because they get you familiar with the NEC. But I didn't see any of the same questions on either my JM or Master tests.

 

[Dnkldorf]

Yeah, I wouldn't think they would be word for word the same questions(boy, would that be nice), but similiar in the way they are worded.

I do about an 1hr-1 1/2hr of his quizzes every night, with the book and without the book. They help out alot...

Thanks Mike...

 

[celtic]

Let's think about it....

...in the "real" world will the questions from HOs, GCs, PEs, EEs, EIs, and anyone else even remotely associated with the product being built be asked the same way as they are in the book?

It's not a curve ball - it's called life.

 

[Dnkldorf]

Yeah, the whole code bok is full of curve balls, depending upon who is interperting it.

Look around this site, many guys have different ways of looking at the codes.

Just curious what to look for, in the test.

 

[celtic]

Just curious what to look for, in the test.

Are you asking for the exact questions and/or answers????

 

[Dnkldorf]

Yeah, if you got them..

No, I'm just asking if the questions are in the same type of format that Mike uses. Kinda hard to explain. Mike questions, after a while, you can sense how they are written, and look for keywords to find the answer.
They are easily understandable..once again tough to explain, but I think hockeyoligist2 knows what I am talking about.

 

[celtic]

Like I said, if you were talking with anyone on a jobsite you need to listen for the keywords - and people call outlets receptacles or plugs or God knows what....same with pipe, conduit, tubing, etc.

You always have to look and listen for keywords...just like crossing the street and cars ~ stop, look and listen.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

The NJ test questions are not in the same format as Mike's questions.
As has been mentioned, that should not be a problem when studying for the test.

One of your study procedures that you should be aware of and use all of the time is BECOME FAMILAR with the NEC.
Mike's questions will help you to become familar with the NEC. As you study, do not be ego driven... what do I mean by this? As you answer questions, learn to "read forward for information, and read backwards for location". So as you answer each question, look backwards once you have found the section number. You look backwards in this order, 1. back to the actual section number if you found the answer in a subsection. 2. Backward a little further to the Part you are in. 3. Backwards again to the Article, 4. and backwards again one more time to the Chapter you are in. This method takes more time per question (hence my statement of not being ego driven to see how many questions you can answer per homework session). One of the benefits of using this method is you will become very familar with the NEC and any question that is asked, you will more easily BE ABLE TO LOCATE the answer, thus saving time in the test and most likely answering more correctly... the goal of any test!
This process develops a habit that will help you be aware if you are in the proper location in the NEC to actually answer a question, whether it is a test question or a question that may come up in the field.
I teach this to my students. This way when you will be able to take any test and you will be prepared, reqardless of the format of the questions.

 

[hockeyoligist2]

The NJ test questions are not in the same format as Mike's questions.
As has been mentioned, that should not be a problem when studying for the test.

One of your study procedures that you should be aware of and use all of the time is BECOME FAMILAR with the NEC.
Mike's questions will help you to become familar with the NEC. As you study, do not be ego driven... what do I mean by this? As you answer questions, learn to "read forward for information, and read backwards for location". So as you answer each question, look backwards once you have found the section number. You look backwards in this order, 1. back to the actual section number if you found the answer in a subsection. 2. Backward a little further to the Part you are in. 3. Backwards again to the Article, 4. and backwards again one more time to the Chapter you are in. This method takes more time per question (hence my statement of not being ego driven to see how many questions you can answer per homework session). One of the benefits of using this method is you will become very familar with the NEC and any question that is asked, you will more easily BE ABLE TO LOCATE the answer, thus saving time in the test and most likely answering more correctly... the goal of any test!
This process develops a habit that will help you be aware if you are in the proper location in the NEC to actually answer a question, whether it is a test question or a question that may come up in the field.
I teach this to my students. This way when you will be able to take any test and you will be prepared, reqardless of the format of the questions.

Ditto Pierre, In the SC tests being able to find the answer fast is the most important. Learning your way around the book is the highest priority! A tabbed and highlighted code book helps a lot, if allowed in your state. It may seem expensive but it is worth it!

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

Hockey

"A tabbed and highlighted code book helps a lot, if allowed in your state. It may seem expensive but it is worth it!"

If anyone is taking a test for licensing, the cost of preparing for the test is a fraction of what the license will be worth.

 

[celtic]

... learn to "read forward for information, and read backwards for location". ...

I like that system.
I'll have to try it out.

 

[JohnJ0906]

I borrowed my foremans 99 nec for my exam because he had the tabs, and they helped a lot! I buy them for my nec's now because it realy can speed up finding an article, Worth every penny and the time to put them on.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

For the 2005 NEC, I suggest to the guys not to install the tabs. If they want/need tabs, I suggest to install them on the top of the pages of the book. Because of the change in the '05, the section numbers are on the top of the page. It is very efficient to "thumb" through the pages without the tabs getting in the way.

 

[Rockyd]

I would also recommend getting the looseleaf binder style of code book. It allows you to take everything that doesn't matter to testing out of the front, and move it to the back. In addition, move the index to the front, either in front of the contents pages, or right behind, so no time is wasted going from front to back of book.

I also take out 310.16 and wire tables from the back I know I will need for conductor fill, and voltage drop questions. They are right in front of me so I don't have to flip around looking for them.