An old 100 year old apartment building in Massachusetts has 24 units. Several units only have 15 amps for all outlets/lights other than 50 amps for an electrical stove Is their a minimum # of amps / circuits a building this old should have. Is their a grandfather clause. Where in the NEC/CMR is the min requirements for older buildings? Thanks Dave
Minimum circuits for old apartment?
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jaylectricity
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- Massachusetts
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Are you renovating this building or just asking if they should bring it up to code?
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- Wisconsin
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- PE (Retired) - Power Systems
Typically this would be cover by the local building codes.
The NEC is not a retro-active document, you would have to see what the NEC requirements were when the facility was built.
The NEC is not a retro-active document, you would have to see what the NEC requirements were when the facility was built.
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I agree other wise you would have to follow Article 210, two sabc for the kitchen, bathroom recepts., laundry if they have it, etc.
construct
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I also agree. If your AHJ has a Property Maintenance Code, there are some minimum receptacles required. Or if the AHJ has an Existing Building Code, it would go a little deeper. But as others have stated, you won't find your answer in the NEC.
renosteinke
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I've started a few threads olong these lines in the past.
It's simply astounding how much our lives have changed - in just our own lifetimes. The house you grew up in is woefully inadequate when measured by todays' codes.
"Apartment" can mean many things. At one extreme you have my place - little more than a closet with space for a cot, microwave, and cat perch. At the other end you have those big-city penthouses that the HGTV shows are always using for $50K kitchen remodels.
I think we look to the code far too much. Code requirements are never a substitute for good design. There are far too many variables for any 'one size fits all' sort of answers.
It's simply astounding how much our lives have changed - in just our own lifetimes. The house you grew up in is woefully inadequate when measured by todays' codes.
"Apartment" can mean many things. At one extreme you have my place - little more than a closet with space for a cot, microwave, and cat perch. At the other end you have those big-city penthouses that the HGTV shows are always using for $50K kitchen remodels.
I think we look to the code far too much. Code requirements are never a substitute for good design. There are far too many variables for any 'one size fits all' sort of answers.
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Funny how that happens at code forums.
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