Minimum height for NM cable to be considered out of reach?
- Thread starter toaduu
- Start date
- Status
peter d
Senior Member
- Location
- New England
This is very subjective. In my area it would be acceptable at that height and lower. However, other parts of the country consider this an area that's "subject to damage" and would not allow it. My best answer is that regional practice is what will determine this.
peter d
Senior Member
- Location
- New England
Is this an attached or integral garage? That will change the answer as well under the 2008.
Inspectorcliff
Senior Member
- Location
- Colorado
334.15 Exposed Work. We use 6'' above the room wall height. If the walls are 7' then that equates to 7'6". Hope that helps.
Last edited:
- Location
- Massachusetts
Strictly speaking a garage is not a dwelling unit and any NM at any height will have to have a 15 min wall finish covering it.
Yes, it is attached or integral.
- Location
- Massachusetts
That would change my post above.
Inspectorcliff
Senior Member
- Location
- Colorado
I wonder if this could be an unfinished detached garage next to a dwelling?
stickboy1375
Senior Member
- Location
- Litchfield, CT
Check out post #7
Sonny Boy
Member
- Location
- Washington
The owner might use them for a clothes line. I wired a HD shed with 6' 3" ceiling height and never got red tagged. Routed the cables through holes in and parallel to the ceiling joists.
Pierre C Belarge
Senior Member
- Location
- Westchester County, New York
Typically speaking, garages located on dwelling/residential "premises" would be considered as auxulliary buildings and wired according to the dwelling premises wiring system.
I do not think that one could consider them as having to follow other codes - otherwise they would not need GFCI protection of receptacles. :wink:
In answer to the height issue, I believe you will need to discuss this with the local inspector, the NEC does not stipulate a particular height.
wbalsam1
Senior Member
- Location
- Upper Jay, NY
In New York State, a residential automobile garage is regulated as an "Accessory Structure" as defined in Section R202, RCNYS. The wiring methods as they relate to protection from physical damage are regulated by E3702.3.2.
Of course, "subject to physical damage" is left to the AHJ...so there's certainly room for interpretation. But, typically, conduit, tubing, pipe guards, guard strips, etc. are used to protect the NM.
Of course, "subject to physical damage" is left to the AHJ...so there's certainly room for interpretation. But, typically, conduit, tubing, pipe guards, guard strips, etc. are used to protect the NM.
Last edited:
- Location
- Massachusetts
And that relates how?
A detached garage is not a one or two family dwelling 334.10(1)
A detached garage is not a multifamily dwelling 334.10(2)
As far as I see a detached garage is 'other' per 334.10(3)
It says what it says and none of what it says has to do with 'auxiliary buildings.
look at 210.8 (A) (2)
wbalsam1
Senior Member
- Location
- Upper Jay, NY
And that relates how?
A detached garage is not a one or two family dwelling 334.10(1)
A detached garage is not a multifamily dwelling 334.10(2)
As far as I see a detached garage is 'other' per 334.10(3)
It says what it says and none of what it says has to do with 'auxiliary buildings.
According to the definitions of "dwelling unit" and "1+2 family dwellings", "garage" is not defined as a part of these type dwellings in the NEC (2005). But is does appear under its' own definition of "Garage" which reads in part: a building or portion of a building in which one or more self-propelled vehicles can be kept for use......"
The above very much supports your interpretation/reading of 334.10(3).
In New York, we need a little consistency between the NEC and our RCNYS. Something else to iron out. Geez. Here we go again. :-?:smile:
- Status