Minnesota Master Exam

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jeff43222

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I just took the Minnesota Master Electrician Exam last week, and I found out yesterday that I failed it by one point. The exam was a lot different than I expected, which is why things didn't go so well.

My preparation involved quite a bit of time over several months with the Mike Holt Master Electrician's Exam Prep book, which helped somewhat. I also used another book, Master Electrician's Review by Richard Loyd, which didn't help much. The exam consisted of a 25-question section, open book, and a 50-question section that was closed book.

The open-book questions were all code-related. Some of them were along the lines of "which of the following is permissible under such-and-such circumstances", and others were things like "what is the minimum size EMT required if you are going to have this many #12 THHN plus that many #14 THHN, etc." All questions required a code reference to get credit for a correct answer, so you couldn't guess or just know the correct answer and still get credit. It took a while to find all the code references, but I got all the code questions right.

After completing the open-book section, you have to turn in the questions, your answer sheet, AND the code book. Then they give you the remaining 50 questions, which you have to answer with no reference material. This is where things went awry for me. I was shocked to find quite a few straight code questions here, the kind of simple stuff that you would expect to be able to look up. For example, there was a question about maximum distance between supports of a certain wiring method. There were other questions about how many #12 wires fit in a certain size box and how deep the trench had to be for a certain kind of outdoor circuit. I had no idea I was supposed to memorize information out of tables! I later found out that my guesses on questions like this were very close to correct, which of course means that I got the questions wrong.

The other area where the exam was different than what I expected from the exam-prep books I used was that there was a fair amount of theory involving motors and transformers. One question asked how you would go about the increasing the power factor on a circuit with inductive motors. Others gave a description of a transformer or motor and then asked you to choose which of the following schematic diagrams matches the description. And another asked about determining the speed of a squirrel-cage motor. This stuff isn't covered very well in the exam-prep books.

Overall, I was surprised how the exam didn't have much math on it, and what calculation questions they had were not complicated at all, whereas the exam-prep books focused a lot on doing a lot of calculations.

Having taken the exam, I can say objectively that it's not a really hard exam, but you have to make sure you study the right material and have memorized certain tables and other information in the NEC if you want to pass it. Unfortunately, there's a law in Minnesota that you have to wait six months before you can take the exam again, even though it's offered every week. :(

-Jeff
 

paul32

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Re: Minnesota Master Exam

I assumed the test would be multiple choice, but your comment about needing a code reference for the first part says it isn't. Otherwise you just look up the references in the choices. Is the second part multiple choice? Was the increasing power factor question multiple choice or not?

What is the time allowed and were the two parts on the same or separate times? Your post sounds like when you finished the first part you got to start the second, and was in a single timed session. Did you feel any time pressure?

Thanks for the information.
 

jeff43222

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Re: Minnesota Master Exam

Originally posted by paul32:
I assumed the test would be multiple choice, but your comment about needing a code reference for the first part says it isn't. Otherwise you just look up the references in the choices. Is the second part multiple choice? Was the increasing power factor question multiple choice or not?

What is the time allowed and were the two parts on the same or separate times? Your post sounds like when you finished the first part you got to start the second, and was in a single timed session. Did you feel any time pressure?

Thanks for the information.
I guess I should clarify. The whole exam is multiple-choice. The code section requires you to write a code reference in addition to selecting the correct answer.

Time wasn't really a factor. Officially, you get a total of five hours, but they let people start early and finish late.
 

daverz

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Re: Minnesota Master Exam

I've taken and passed master exams in several states. I actually thought Minnesota's was one the hardest. I passed it the second time around.

That being said, I think it's a good test. A Master Electrician, and a Journeyman for that matter, is supposed to know SOME things. If you're wiring a home, you need to know where to put romex staples, for example.

You can write the state. They'll review your exam and write you back letting you know EVERYTHING that you got wrong. While the won't tell you the exact questions, they will say things like, "maximum number of conductors allowed in a box, minimum burial depth of outside branch-circuits." I was able to recall exacly, almost every question, with that information and did much, much better the second time around.

Good luck next time.
 

jeff43222

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Re: Minnesota Master Exam

Originally posted by daverz:
I've taken and passed master exams in several states. I actually thought Minnesota's was one the hardest. I passed it the second time around.

That being said, I think it's a good test. A Master Electrician, and a Journeyman for that matter, is supposed to know SOME things. If you're wiring a home, you need to know where to put romex staples, for example.

You can write the state. They'll review your exam and write you back letting you know EVERYTHING that you got wrong. While the won't tell you the exact questions, they will say things like, "maximum number of conductors allowed in a box, minimum burial depth of outside branch-circuits." I was able to recall exacly, almost every question, with that information and did much, much better the second time around.

Good luck next time.
Dave,

Thanks for the info. I checked with the Board of Electricity this morning, and I was told that they are going to be changing the exam in July, and that the new exam will be all open-book.

I also didn't know you could request info about what questions you got wrong. I asked about this, and they told me they stopped doing this a couple of years ago. I suspect that if the exam was the same, someone figured out that telling people what they did wrong caused a huge increase in their score the second time around.

-Jeff

[ May 20, 2004, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: jeff43222 ]
 
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