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don_resqcapt19

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5 pedestrians get electric shocks on Chicago's Near Northwest Side

By Jason Meisner |Tribune reporter February 7, 2008

Five people suffered mild electric shocks Wednesday night while walking on a slushy street on Chicago's Near Northwest Side, the third such incident in less than a week.

The victims were crossing the mouth of an alley on Ashland Avenue just north of Division Street at about 8:30 p.m. when they felt a shock and called 911, Chicago Police Officer John Mirabelli said.

Paramedics took the five people to St. Mary of Nazareth Hospital Center, where they were all reported in good condition late Wednesday, Fire Department spokesman Rich Rosado said. He could not provide further information.


Police said the shock may have come from a faulty wire in a utility pole or other street-level apparatus. A Commonwealth Edison crew was also dispatched as a precaution but there was no indication the problem was related to ComEd equipment, company spokesman Jeff Burdick said.

The incident also prompted the Chicago Transit Authority to block the northwest entrance to the nearby Blue Line station as a precaution, spokeswoman Wanda Taylor said. Taylor said the incident did not involve CTA equipment and did not affect train service.

On Friday, two similar incidents occurred within hours of each other, resulting in minor injuries.

Two women walking outside the Sears Tower were shocked when a heated grate used to melt snow apparently malfunctioned, according to police. Later that day several people suffered a similar jolt when they walked past a light pole in the 700 block of North LaSalle Street.
 

DUCKMAN

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Pet Shock

We had a rash of this last year in Boston. Several pets were shocked from wiring that was not terminated (poles broken or removed) and the like. IT seems to have quieted down lately, but it appears that it is a widespread problem.
 

wireguru

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it killed a woman in vegas. she stepped on a traffic signal handhole submerged in water. handhole had a metal cover and the bonding jumper had corroded away.
 

ray cyr

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A gentleman on another professional forum that I belong to wrote about this yesterday...he was the person that called 911. This was his post:

So I'm trudging through the snow/water sludge on my way home tonight and ahead I see a family, parents and three kids. The mother was pulling one of the kids up off of the ground where she was laying, in a 4 inch deep puddle of sludge next to where an alley joined the street. The rest of the family was hysterical at this point.

When I made it up to the family, they asked me if I had "been shocked". I said no, and asked what happened to them. Apparently 3 of the 5 people had been shocked from the pavement, and one of the kids had fallen into the street due to the shock. 10 seconds later, in disbelief, I felt a jolt go up my legs that lasted about 5 seconds. I called to all of the people to get away from the alley, we made it to a dry corner and called 911. The effects of my shock faded after a couple of minutes and the fire trucks/less than understanding police/ambulances arrived.

One of the scariest moments of my life. Its funny how you read about accidents like this and you never forget it, and they eventually gets to you as well.
 

George Stolz

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ray cyr said:
A gentleman on another professional forum that I belong to wrote about this yesterday...he was the person that called 911.

Small world. Or is it...? Not to call anybody a liar, but I'd question the source.
 

LawnGuyLandSparky

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Don't be too quick to question. Some of the horros I saw in ConEd manholes would make you quiver. Utility's treat their grounds (our neutrals) like they're bastard redheaded stepchildren. Often on the bottom of the manhole rack, submerged in mud and salt water.

Think of a transformer at one end of a city block, and 5-6 manholes fed from it, each feeding multiple buildings and city equipment (streetlights, traffic signals) and a precarious ground bonding each sucessive manhole full of unbalanced loads. There's plenty of potential for potential to be running up and down the block.

Then consider by DOT design, in many areas, and along many highways, the utility neutral serves as the ground as well, only 2 wires are brought from a manhole to a streetlight or traffic signal or phone booth, and the neutral is bonded right to the structure.

Of course, this all works fine when installed. 75-100 years ago.
 

ray cyr

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George, I understand your skepticism but;
1) the other forum is a professional audio technicians forum where no "handles" are allowed, the posters real name must by used;
2) this gentleman is a well respected member of this community;
3) his post was up at 8:02 p.m. EST wed. Feb. 6.
Ray
 

Ken9876

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"I smell a business opportunity for a testing firm"

This would be very easy if employed by the NJ DOT, simply lift the JB cover, huh no bonding, never was bonded. At pole bases oh look no bonding conductors only ground rods, or look the only bonding means to the pole to the RMC the bonding bushing has rotted off. And many of these jobs are at the shore, many people bare footed or in sandles, just a matter of time, but what do I know.
 
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