Murray 150 amp panel cutler hammer breakers

[dm9289]

I ran across something odd today a Murray panel filled with 2 pole CH-BR230/c230 and single pull CH-BR120/C120 and CH-BR115/C115.
The panel is essentially almost full of these breakers which to me was odd.
Is it code compliant to use the above Cuttler Hammer breakers in this panel.

 

[LarryFine]

Only if the panel was approved to accept type BR breakers. Some were.

It's all about the breaker type, not necessarily the breaker brand.

 

[dm9289]

Only if the panel was approved to accept type BR breakers. Some were.

It's all about the breaker type, not necessarily the breaker brand.

Maybe a bit odd is they are all switch rated and HACR type

 

[dm9289]

Only if the panel was approved to accept type BR breakers. Some were.

It's all about the breaker type, not necessarily the breaker brand.

 

[jim dungar]

.... HACR type

That might just mean they are some 30 years old. The requirement for showing HACR went away in the 90s.

 

[dm9289]

Only if the panel was approved to accept type BR breakers. Some were.

It's all about the breaker type, not necessarily the breaker brand.

Thanks I am going to have to further research but I am thinking not compatible.

That might just mean they are some 30 years old. The requirement for showing HACR went away in the 90s.

Its just seemed super odd to fill a Murray with all CH.

 

[jim dungar]

Its just seemed super odd to fill a Murray with all CH.

Does Murray make breakers?

 

[Little Bill]

Does Murray make breakers?

Murray=Siemens

 

[jim dungar]

Murray=Siemens

As far back as 30 years ago? Did the breakers say Murray?

 

[Little Bill]

As far back as 30 years ago? Did the breakers say Murray?

They used to say Murray. Now they say Siemens, but have the same part number.
I put in a Murray panel a few years ago and the spec sheet on the panel door said to only use Siemens breakers.

 

[LarryFine]

Thanks I am going to have to further research but I am thinking not compatible.

Its just seemed super odd to fill a Murray with all CH.

Look at the Murray panel label. It either will or will not list BR breakers as acceptable.

 

[curt swartz]

Prior to Siemens buying the line, then discontinuing it the brand was Crouse-Hinds. Prior to Crouse-Hinds it was know as Murray. Siemens renamed it back to Murray.

If the panel was a pre Crouse-Hinds days it may very well have listed BR breakers on the label.

If this was Siemens/Murray then BR breakers were definitely NOT listed for it.

 

[dm9289]

Prior to Siemens buying the line, then discontinuing it the brand was Crouse-Hinds. Prior to Crouse-Hinds it was know as Murray. Siemens renamed it back to Murray.

If the panel was a pre Crouse-Hinds days it may very well have listed BR breakers on the label.

If this was Siemens/Murray then BR breakers were definitely NOT listed for it.

Thank you for your input

 

[dm9289]

Prior to Siemens buying the line, then discontinuing it the brand was Crouse-Hinds. Prior to Crouse-Hinds it was know as Murray. Siemens renamed it back to Murray.

If the panel was a pre Crouse-Hinds days it may very well have listed BR breakers on the label.

If this was Siemens/Murray then BR breakers were definitely NOT listed for it.

I’m going g back tomorrow. A family medical thing hit and I had to bug out