dbailey0521
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I understand commercial kitchens must be GFI protected. But if it is hardwired, does it still need to be?
Does 210.8(D) not say "outlets" as opposed to receptacle outlets for specified appliances ??The 2020 states receptacles. I don't know what the '23 says.
Ron
Yes it does. Then it refers us to 422.5 which lists a few appliances.Does 210.8(D) not say "outlets" as opposed to receptacle outlets for specified appliances ??
Yes sir, I agree.and '23 appears to have added ranges, micros and other cooking equipment so I guess the answer is dependent on the Code cycle in effect.
You are correct, sir. However, the OP's question was regarding a commercial kitchen.2023 still says receptacle
(A) Dwelling Units.
Take a look at 210.8(D) in the 2023 code ... a major expansion that applies to all occupancies.2023 still says receptacle
(A) Dwelling Units.
All 125-volt through 250-volt receptacles installed in the following locations and supplied by single-phase branch circuits rated 150 volts or less to ground shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel:
- (1)
Bathrooms- (2)
Garages and also accessory buildings that have a floor located at or below grade level not intended as habitable rooms and limited to storage areas, work areas, and areas of similar use- (3)
Outdoors- (4)
Crawl spaces — at or below grade level- (5)
Basements- (6)
Kitchens- (7)
Areas with sinks and permanent provisions for food preparation, beverage preparation, or cooking- (8)
Sinks — where receptacles are installed within 1.8 m (6 ft) from the top inside edge of the bowl of the sink- (9)
Boathouses- (10)
Bathtubs or shower stalls — where receptacles are installed within 1.8 m (6 ft) of the outside edge of the bathtub or shower stall- (11)
Laundry areas- (12)
Indoor damp and wet locations
Exception No. 1:
Receptacles that are not readily accessible and are supplied by a branch circuit dedicated to electric snow-melting, deicing, or pipeline and vessel heating equipment shall be permitted to be installed in accordance with 426.28 or 427.22, as applicable.
Exception No. 2:
A receptacle supplying only a permanently installed premises security system shall be permitted to omit ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection.
Exception No. 3:
Listed weight-supporting ceiling receptacles (WSCR) utilized in combination with compatible weight-supporting attachment fittings (WSAF) installed for the purpose of supporting a ceiling luminaire or ceiling-suspended fan shall be permitted to omit ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection. If a general-purpose convenience receptacle is integral to the ceiling luminaire or ceiling-suspended fan, GFCI protection shall be provided.
Exception No. 4:
Factory-installed receptacles that are not readily accessible and are mounted internally to bathroom exhaust fan assemblies shall not require GFCI protection unless required by the installation instructions or listing.
(D) Specific Appliances.
GFCI protection shall be provided for the branch circuit or outlet supplying the following appliances rated 150 volts or less to ground and 60 amperes or less, single- or 3-phase:
- (1) Automotive vacuum machines
- (2) Drinking water coolers and bottle fill stations
- (3) High-pressure spray washing machines
- (4) Tire inflation machines
- (5) Vending machines
- (6) Sump pumps
- (7) Dishwashers
- (8) Electric ranges
- (9) Wall-mounted ovens
- (10) Counter-mounted cooking units
- (11) Clothes dryers
- (12) Microwave ovens
Take a look at 210.8(D) in the 2023 code ... a major expansion that applies to all occupancies.
OK. So what is it you are actually asking?The engineer is using this as his requirement
I have to wonder who will win. Good luck!2014 for the state, but the engineer is using the 2020