NEC murder defense...

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I swear to god, I'm going to kill this HT guy and claim NEC as my defense. In the last week I've heard him give the following advice - and of course his position is much more respected than mine so my interjections have gone un-noted.

* If the Cat 5e Cable is plenum rated you can run it through all the ducts you want. It's a great way to pull runs if you don't want to pull through walls.

* You don't have to use low-voltage enclosures if you don't want to. Just drill a hole through the drywall big enough for the cable and let it free hang.

* It's perfectly fine to put a set of receptacles on a dimmer to control a set of rope-lights used for isle-ways in a home theatre.

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The last one mad as hell because it was downright irresponsible.
 

charlie b

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The NEC defense might keep you out of jail, but you'd still have to undergo the trial. Probably not worth it. ;)

But just so's I knows, what is "HT"? :confused:
 

Jhr

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Before things get out of hand and you get even ;) .

[ August 04, 2005, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: Jhr ]
 

charlie b

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I'm starting to put together a list of acronyms that are commonly used in this Forum. I'm not sure how to publish it. But I'll add "HT" to the list. Thanks. ;)
 

Jhr

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acronym
(noun) : a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu ) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term
Very good idea Charlie, also while you are at it if you please, how about putting a list together of the differant slang terms used for differant types of electrical fittings and the like, I saw this on a post "lockdog" what in the world is a "lockdog" :confused: ?
 
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Originally posted by Jhr:
Before things get out of hand and you get even ;) .
This is on a forum for HT specialists, which I frequent regularily to try remind people that the NEC does cover low-voltage installations and that Code must be observed.

But he's giving electrical advice that is simply flat out wrong - including such wonderful quips as "don't worry about a permit, all it does is fatten the government's pockets" - and it kills me.
 

petersonra

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Originally posted by arjo_reich:
But he's giving electrical advice that is simply flat out wrong - including such wonderful quips as "don't worry about a permit, all it does is fatten the government's pockets" - and it kills me.
In many cases this is not all that far off.
 

charlie b

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You are not going to have to "do dis guy in" yourself. Just wait. Someone is going to take his advice, install it wrong (and without a permit), someone will get hurt :)
 

jimwalker

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"* You don't have to use low-voltage enclosures if you don't want to. Just drill a hole through the drywall big enough for the cable and let it free hang."

Ok i must ask,other than that would look sloppy just what is the danger.I have seen many data and phone lines using nothing more than cut in data ring.And have seen a few just hanking out of a wall with a jack. :confused:
 

Jhr

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This is on a forum for HT specialists, which I frequent regularily to try remind people that the NEC does cover low-voltage installations and that Code must be observed.

But he's giving electrical advice that is simply flat out wrong - including such wonderful quips as "don't worry about a permit, all it does is fatten the government's pockets" - and it kills me.
If you take your car to a mechanic, and he tells you all the wrong stuff about what a safe car you have but you know that you have 2 bald tires, bad breaks, a head light that won't work :) :cool: Also have youever seen a satalite tv guy use a box for his installation I haven't.

[ August 04, 2005, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: Jhr ]
 
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