NEC required circuit size question

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The other night I replaced a skid mounted vacuum unit. It had two pumps and was identical to the one that came out expect that each pump was larger. They had moved from two 3 HP to two 5 HP. The original circuit was 12 AWG on a 15 amp breaker.

I changed the breaker to a 20 and called it a night.

Am I am in compliance?

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The only possible problem I could see would be if the machine was using your breaker as the overload protection.
 
Not using the tables, at 20 amps where is the 125% for the largest motor?

If I had to guess:

Total FLA = 19.6
Largest FLA= 9.6
Balance FLA= 10
9.6 * 125% = 12 amps + 10 amps = 22 amps
 
Not using the tables, at 20 amps where is the 125% for the largest motor?

If I had to guess:

Total FLA = 19.6
Largest FLA= 9.6
Balance FLA= 10
9.6 * 125% = 12 amps + 10 amps = 22 amps

Using the table it is


Total FLA = 15.2
Largest FLA= 7.6
7.6 * 125% = 9.5 amps + 10 amps = 19.5 amps

Looks like the tags FLA is based on the table and maybe the load of the coils and PLC.
 
Using the table it is


Total FLA = 15.2
Largest FLA= 7.6
7.6 * 125% = 9.5 amps + 10 amps = 19.5 amps

Looks like the tags FLA is based on the table and maybe the load of the coils and PLC.

I figured there was something there but my response was based solely on the nameplate which didn't give individual HP ratings.
 
You should be ok with 20 amp circuit if there is no problem starting the motors because of the rules in 409. The main factor is if the control cabinet has built in OCPD. If it does, then your feeder OCPD has to match that of the supplied OCPD. If not then the rules in 430.52 and 53 applies. In there it states to use the name plate rating on the cover(19.6).

409.20 Conductor — Minimum Size and Ampacity.
The size of the industrial control panel supply conductor shall have an ampacity not less than 125 percent of the full-load current rating of all resistance heating loads plus 125 percent of the full-load current rating of the highest rated motor plus the sum of the full-load current ratings of all other connected motors and apparatus based on their duty cycle that may be in operation at the same time.
409.21 Overcurrent Protection.
(A) General. Industrial control panels shall be provided with overcurrent protection in accordance with Parts I, II, and IX of Article 240.
(B) Location. This protection shall be provided for each incoming supply circuit by either of the following:
The text “for each incoming supply circuit” was added to the 2008 Code to permit more than one incoming power supply to an industrial control panel.

(1) An overcurrent protective device located ahead of the industrial control panel.
(2) A single main overcurrent protective device located within the industrial control panel. Where overcurrent protection is provided as part of the industrial control panel, the supply conductors shall be considered as either feeders or taps as covered by 240.21.
(C) Rating. The rating or setting of the overcurrent protective device for the circuit supplying the industrial control panel shall not be greater than the sum of the largest rating or setting of the branch-circuit short-circuit and ground-fault protective device provided with the industrial control panel, plus 125 percent of the full-load current rating of all resistance heating loads, plus the sum of the full-load currents of all other motors and apparatus that could be in operation at the same time.
Exception: Where one or more instantaneous trip circuit breakers or motor short-circuit protectors are used for motor branch-circuit short-circuit and ground-fault protection as permitted by 430.52(C), the procedure specified above for determining the maximum rating of the protective device for the circuit supplying the industrial control panel shall apply with the following provision: For the purpose of the calculation, each instantaneous trip circuit breaker or motor short-circuit protector shall be assumed to have a rating not exceeding the maximum percentage of motor full-load current permitted by Table 430.52 for the type of control panel supply circuit protective device employed.
Where no branch-circuit short-circuit and ground-fault protective device is provided with the industrial control panel for motor or combination of motor and non-motor loads, the rating or setting of the overcurrent protective device shall be based on 430.52 and 430.53, as applicable.


430.53 Several Motors or Loads on One Branch Circuit.
(C) Other Group Installations. Two or more motors of any rating or one or more motors and other load(s), with each motor having individual overload protection, shall be permitted to be connected to one branch circuit where the motor controller(s) and overload device(s) are (1) installed as a listed factory assembly and the motor branch-circuit short-circuit and ground-fault protective device either is provided as part of the assembly or is specified by a marking on the assembly,
 
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