Need a quick answer.Receptacle in detached garage

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Hello,

We have like a garden house type apartments and we have detached garages.Garages are far away maybe like 100' away from the units.This is based on 2008 NEC. I see in 210.52(G) where it says

For a one-family dwelling,
the following provisions shall apply:
(1) At least one receptacle outlet, in addition to those for
specific equipment, shall be installed in each basement,
in each attached garage, and in each detached garage
with electric power.
(2) Where a portion of the basement is finished into one or
more habitable rooms, each separate unfinished portion
shall have a receptacle outlet installed in accordance
with this section.

I am thinking since it says it requires for one family dwelling considering these are garden house type apartments with detached garages some 100' away, do you need one minimum outlet per code?
 
shortcircuit1 said:
Hello,

We have like a garden house type apartments and we have detached garages.Garages are far away maybe like 100' away from the units.This is based on 2008 NEC. I see in 210.52(G) where it says

For a one-family dwelling,
the following provisions shall apply:
(1) At least one receptacle outlet, in addition to those for
specific equipment, shall be installed in each basement,
in each attached garage, and in each detached garage
with electric power.
(2) Where a portion of the basement is finished into one or
more habitable rooms, each separate unfinished portion
shall have a receptacle outlet installed in accordance
with this section.

I am thinking since it says it requires for one family dwelling considering these are garden house type apartments with detached garages some 100' away, do you need one minimum outlet per code?
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If the detached garage does not otherwise have power, you don't need a receptacle. An attached garage would require a recep.
 
texie said:
Yep. Are these multiple garages in a common building as we often see in this scenario? That adds more things to think about.
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I dont understand when you say in a common building. These are like garden house type apartments and garages are maybe 100' away from the units.
 
shortcircuit1 said:
Hello,

We have like a garden house type apartments and we have detached garages.Garages are far away maybe like 100' away from the units.This is based on 2008 NEC. I see in 210.52(G) where it says

For a one-family dwelling,
the following provisions shall apply:
(1) At least one receptacle outlet, in addition to those for
specific equipment, shall be installed in each basement,
in each attached garage, and in each detached garage
with electric power.
(2) Where a portion of the basement is finished into one or
more habitable rooms, each separate unfinished portion
shall have a receptacle outlet installed in accordance
with this section.

I am thinking since it says it requires for one family dwelling considering these are garden house type apartments with detached garages some 100' away, do you need one minimum outlet per code?
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The requirement is for one family dwellings not apartment buildings. Apartment buildings have dwelling units but they are not a one family dwelling.

Dwelling, One-Family. A building that consists solely of
one dwelling unit.
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I think he may be referring to Town House style or Baltimore Style.. What we have all over the UK... where everyone owns their own home but shares a wall or both walls with neighbors... Not Apartments but not sure how USA calls them. Duplex is more Common in areas that I lived in USA...lol... although the Brownstones of NYC spring to mind as well...
 
Adamjamma said:
I think he may be referring to Town House style or Baltimore Style.. What we have all over the UK... where everyone owns their own home but shares a wall or both walls with neighbors... Not Apartments but not sure how USA calls them. Duplex is more Common in areas that I lived in USA...lol... although the Brownstones of NYC spring to mind as well...
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Yes, but the key thing is the garages are well separated from the apartment building proper. I have seen what I think is being described. The garages are all lined up next to each other, 10 or 20 in a row.
 
Over here we have that, well, here in London, not Jamaica...
the garages are usually rented from Council here as many times the places found it just easier to hand the garages to council rather than maintain them... due to the problems. That said, I also have seen where homes were built on the streets, and at the back of the gardens the garages were built, onto an alley. Not as common, but better for garbage and such...
in those cases, any lighting is run from the home to the garage, so would have to have an outlet as well... but when the council owns them, you often do not even have a light in them unless you pay for a separate service to be run to it...
 
I know exactly what you are talking about. Building owner owns the garage building, nothing to do with the apartments though the apartment renters usually have to pay to rent a garage.

Power is supplied from a "house" meter paid for by the landlord. There should be exterior lighting just like any of the other common areas as well as maybe some for inside. No receptacles are required in my opinion nor are any recommended because of theft of power. If each overhead door has an operator, a ceiling receptacle has to be provided but I would make it a single. The light on the operator will serve as the illumination for the respective garage.

I'll try to find something in the Code that fits this. IMO they are not residential garages, more like a big storage shed or barn.

-Hal
 
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hbiss said:
I know exactly what you are talking about. Building owner owns the garage building, nothing to do with the apartments though the apartment renters usually have to pay to rent a garage.

Power is supplied from a "house" meter paid for by the landlord. There should be exterior lighting just like any of the other common areas as well as maybe some for inside. No receptacles are required in my opinion nor are any recommended because of theft of power. If each overhead door has an operator, a ceiling receptacle has to be provided but I would make it a single. The light on the operator will serve as the illumination for the respective garage.

-Hal
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I would put at least one receptacle in there anyway. Simplex receptacle on ceiling for GDO is simply inviting users to plug cheaters into them if you don't give them something else to plug into. OP said he is on 2008 NEC, but kind of doesn't matter IMO - you just don't encourage them to do that. No GDO but a light? That situation also encourages cheaters to be screwed into lamp socket - unless it is a non screw shell type luminaire such as a fixed LED or something.
 
Many of these have partitions between bays because tenants often store items in their space. So now you are talking about a receptacle in each that someone could plug a space heater into and keep his car nice and toasty at the landlords expense.

These things are like self storage units.

Put a locking in-use cover on the GDO receptacle. Put it as high as you can. How about a twist lock?

-Hal
 
hbiss said:
Many of these have partitions between bays because tenants often store items in their space. So now you are talking about a receptacle in each that someone could plug a space heater into and keep his car nice and toasty at the landlords expense.

These things are like self storage units.

Put a locking in-use cover on the GDO receptacle. Put it as high as you can. How about a twist lock?

-Hal
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So then they just thread some sort of adapter into the light socket, and create an even bigger fire hazard.

First thing here is if you provide garages with or as options to your apartments you likely aren't running a slum apartment complex, and this is even more true if you put power and garage door openers in the garages.
 
shortcircuit1 said:
Hello,

We have like a garden house type apartments and we have detached garages.Garages are far away maybe like 100' away from the units.This is based on 2008 NEC. I see in 210.52(G) where it says

For a one-family dwelling,
the following provisions shall apply:
(1) At least one receptacle outlet, in addition to those for
specific equipment, shall be installed in each basement,
in each attached garage, and in each detached garage
with electric power.
(2) Where a portion of the basement is finished into one or
more habitable rooms, each separate unfinished portion
shall have a receptacle outlet installed in accordance
with this section.

I am thinking since it says it requires for one family dwelling considering these are garden house type apartments with detached garages some 100' away, do you need one minimum outlet per code?
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detached garages wouldn’t need a receptacle if it doesn’t have power already. If you do have power then u would need a receptacle
 
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