Hello all, first time posting here. Im in a not-so-good situation here. I work for the state (a municipality) and have been here for over 2 years doing eletrical work. I was in the US Marine corps before coming here as a field wireman. Our school was 6 months long 40 hrs a week. We learned everything from theory to the NEC, problem is that I have never done any residential work. Now my company is requiring me to take the state journeymans exam... First question is, is this legal? From what I get, state workers are not required to have an electricians license as we are not under OSHA. Not sure where exactly I should go to find out so Im starting to ask around now. A friend of mine suggested i contact the UBEW. Also another problem Im finding is that Im required to work for a contractor to have the ojt hours...Well, thats impossible if Im still working for this company right? thanks in advance.
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mcclary's electrical
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I can't speak for your state, but in VA, you have to have 4 years of documented experience to test for a journeyman's, and ten years to test for a master's. So ,here, it would not be legal for you to test. Without you forging documents that ahve to be on company letterhead and signed by company president, while having them notorized, you couldn't test. I'm not sure what they do where you are..Documented school counts also. Two years school, and two years work might get you in for the test.
donselectric
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first off thankyou for serving...
you should have some documents on the schooling you got
and from your current job along with being a vet i would contact
your state board and military contact you have... start there
good luck
you should have some documents on the schooling you got
and from your current job along with being a vet i would contact
your state board and military contact you have... start there
good luck
Ken9876
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What state are you in?
The hours you worked for the state should count, it did for me in NJ.
You may not be under OSHA, but in NJ we're under POSHA if you work for the state.
The hours you worked for the state should count, it did for me in NJ.
You may not be under OSHA, but in NJ we're under POSHA if you work for the state.
Thanks for the replies all. Im in Florida. As far as electrical work experience, I have around 8, none in residential tho...4 in the military and 4 in municipality work. Does anyone know if my DD-214 docs will qualify with my MOS (job description) will count or if I need actual management signatures?
Does Florida even have a J card license?
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=98430
What you need to do if they do.. Is contact the all the licensing division, explain your situation. Many states will accept military service for some part of the required hours. Your work for the state might be acceptable as OJT(on the job training hours) in some states also. Good luck!
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=98430
What you need to do if they do.. Is contact the all the licensing division, explain your situation. Many states will accept military service for some part of the required hours. Your work for the state might be acceptable as OJT(on the job training hours) in some states also. Good luck!
Ok, got this response from an email today, so to me this only applies to NEW construction over 50,000 spuare feet? ;
Thank you for contacting the Department of Business and Professional Regulation regarding a journeymen license.
The Electrical Contractors' Licensing Board does not license or regulate "journeymen." Typically, the licensing and regulation of journeymen is carried out by the local licensing authority in each county or municipality in the state of Florida. Effective January 1, 2003, provisions of Section 489.537, Florida Statutes (F.S.), provides that local authorities may require a journeyman if the following conditions exist on a given job site:
1. The project is new construction of over 50,000 gross square feet, AND
2. There is electrical work with voltage exceeding 77 volts.
Once those requirements are met, the local authority may require a journeyman to supervise the work at the job site. The journeyman hired must meet the requirements of Section 489.537(3)(f), F.S , or be licensed pursuant to Section 489.5335, F.S, or be exempt from licensure pursuant to Section 489.503, F.S. For further information regarding onsite requirements for journeyman, please consult the current Florida Building Code. You can view the Florida Building Code online by visiting http://www.dca.state.fl.us/fhcd/fbc/information/1_information.htm
If you need further information please contact the DBPR Customer Contact Center at (850) 487-1395 or through email to callcenter@dbpr.state.fl.us
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R Strickland
Thank you for contacting the Department of Business and Professional Regulation regarding a journeymen license.
The Electrical Contractors' Licensing Board does not license or regulate "journeymen." Typically, the licensing and regulation of journeymen is carried out by the local licensing authority in each county or municipality in the state of Florida. Effective January 1, 2003, provisions of Section 489.537, Florida Statutes (F.S.), provides that local authorities may require a journeyman if the following conditions exist on a given job site:
1. The project is new construction of over 50,000 gross square feet, AND
2. There is electrical work with voltage exceeding 77 volts.
Once those requirements are met, the local authority may require a journeyman to supervise the work at the job site. The journeyman hired must meet the requirements of Section 489.537(3)(f), F.S , or be licensed pursuant to Section 489.5335, F.S, or be exempt from licensure pursuant to Section 489.503, F.S. For further information regarding onsite requirements for journeyman, please consult the current Florida Building Code. You can view the Florida Building Code online by visiting http://www.dca.state.fl.us/fhcd/fbc/information/1_information.htm
If you need further information please contact the DBPR Customer Contact Center at (850) 487-1395 or through email to callcenter@dbpr.state.fl.us
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jwnelson1
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Jeffro,
I am also a 7 year vet of the Marines, 1142 all the way.
Did you go through TAP class? If so then you should of got your VMET (verification of military experience and training.) You can use this official document for job experience while you served. You can find this at:
www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/vmet/index.jsp
In this document it has all your ranks and promotion dates, formal schools, MCI's, Job and billet descriptions ect...
It is a good thing to keep on hand for future endeavors.
I submitted this document along with fitness reports and letters of recommendation to california for my application.
Semper Fidelis
I am also a 7 year vet of the Marines, 1142 all the way.
Did you go through TAP class? If so then you should of got your VMET (verification of military experience and training.) You can use this official document for job experience while you served. You can find this at:
www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/vmet/index.jsp
In this document it has all your ranks and promotion dates, formal schools, MCI's, Job and billet descriptions ect...
It is a good thing to keep on hand for future endeavors.
I submitted this document along with fitness reports and letters of recommendation to california for my application.
Semper Fidelis
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I am feeling your pain. I work for a contractor as a maintenance electrician on an Air Force base. I worked 11 years as an Air Force electrician doing exactly what I am doing as a contractor. Our new contract states that all electricians have to have a journeyman's license. The Air Force is rejecting it's own training. (Most likely due to a poorly worded contract)
In Colorado, you can receive up to 4 years credit for military experience. I was able to submit my dd214, Community College of the Air Force paperwork showing my Air Force training and 18 months of construction experience from a company I worked for in Delaware.
It took the state 2 months to get me a response, but they approved me to test. Now I just have to pass it.
If I don't pass the test, I will likely loss my job.
Military Experience
I am feeling your pain. I work for a contractor as a maintenance electrician on an Air Force base. I worked 11 years as an Air Force electrician doing exactly what I am doing as a contractor. Our new contract states that all electricians have to have a journeyman's license. The Air Force is rejecting it's own training. (Most likely due to a poorly worded contract)
In Colorado, you can receive up to 4 years credit for military experience. I was able to submit my dd214, Community College of the Air Force paperwork showing my Air Force training and 18 months of construction experience from a company I worked for in Delaware.
It took the state 2 months to get me a response, but they approved me to test. Now I just have to pass it.
If I don't pass the test, I will likely loss my job.
Pierre C Belarge
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I provide training, so...
When the guys who come to my class are in your predicament, they are usually the best motivated students. My suggestion is to find a trainer. If your job/income depends on passing the test it is worth spending money and time to keep your job. I am sure you are aware that jobs are hard to come by today.
Good luck and study hard!
AV ELECTRIC
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This is not exactly the same thing but when i took my contractors exam my military time and apprentiship training was accepted. If you got the hours You can take the test most likely take a class that will get you up to date. Ime sure you will get plenty of time if you show you are going through the process. Talk to your supervisor on getting together with fellow employees and get this done they may pick up some of the cost
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