Need Help With Motor Internal Wiring

[Little Bill]

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I have a motor that I need some help on the internal wiring.
I had to remove the connection plate in the (pecker head) wiring compartment.

I tried to write down the wire colors and placement before I took the leads loose, but there were two wires that came off before I could see them.

The motor is dual voltage, 115V or 230V.
There is a slide switch that you slide to whatever voltage you are wiring it to.

The back side of the slide switch is where the connections are and where the two wires go that I don't know where connect.

Looking at the plate as it comes goes onto the motor there is 2 rows of 3 connections.

The top row has, in this order, yellow-white-orange.
Those are correct.

The two missing wires go on the 2nd row. There is three places to connect but only need two of them.

The two missing wires are what looks like red, and another yellow wire.
The yellow wires show continuity so it shouldn't matter which one I use.

Also, the motor has a capacitor which I assume is a start capacitor.

Here is a picture of the name plate if it helps.
Any help on this would be appreciated!

 

[GoldDigger]

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The motor is dual voltage, 115V or 230V.
There is a slide switch that you slide to whatever voltage you are wiring it to.

The back side of the slide switch is where the connections are and where the two wires go that I don't know where connect.

I would need to know what terminals are connected to what terminals in each position of the slide switch, among other things.
If you get the correct pair of switch terminals for the two wires, it should not matter which polarity you use, but they would have to be connected to the correct sid (position) of the switch.
The switch is almost certainly changing between series and parallel wiring of two motor windings. In that case the upper row of the switch could be shorting together two winding ends to make up the series connection or doing one half of the job of paralleling the two windings.

Maybe with more information about this we could help. Ideally, you need somebody with the same motor to look at.
Is the white wire in the top row connected to one of the input line terminals?

 

[growler]

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I have a motor that I need some help on the internal wiring.

Here is a picture of the name plate if it helps.
Any help on this would be appreciated.

Go to the manufacturers web site and use the CAT # to look up the motor...CAT# EB128

I did this but it wouldn't let me into the wiring diagram so you may have to contact them directly.


You may also want to check to see if this motor is on a recall list because some of their other motors are.


The best place to find information on a product is go to the people that made it. Bug the heck out of them.

 

[Smart $]

... there is 2 rows of 3 connections.

The top row has, in this order, yellow-white-orange.
Those are correct.

The two missing wires go on the 2nd row. There is three places to connect but only need two of them.

The two missing wires are what looks like red, and another yellow wire.
The yellow wires show continuity so it shouldn't matter which one I use.

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I'm willing to bet they go on the 2nd row center and end terminal closest to the connected yellow... :happyyes:


Being a switch, to which of the two doesn't really matter, but I'd say red on center.

How is it the wires became disconnected? Are they quick disconnects, solder, etc.? Any signs of the terminals formerly being connected?

 

[Little Bill]

I would need to know what terminals are connected to what terminals in each position of the slide switch, among other things.
If you get the correct pair of switch terminals for the two wires, it should not matter which polarity you use, but they would have to be connected to the correct sid (position) of the switch.
The switch is almost certainly changing between series and parallel wiring of two motor windings. In that case the upper row of the switch could be shorting together two winding ends to make up the series connection or doing one half of the job of paralleling the two windings.

Maybe with more information about this we could help. Ideally, you need somebody with the same motor to look at.
Is the white wire in the top row connected to one of the input line terminals?

No, the white wire didn't connect to the line input.

I was hoping to find one to look at, but no luck.

Go to the manufacturers web site and use the CAT # to look up the motor...CAT# EB128

I did this but it wouldn't let me into the wiring diagram so you may have to contact them directly.


You may also want to check to see if this motor is on a recall list because some of their other motors are.


The best place to find information on a product is go to the people that made it. Bug the heck out of them.

I tried the web site too before I posted. I sent them a request for info via the website.
My reply was "hire a local electrician, we don't walk people through this over the phone. You might get somebody electrocuted." :blink::lol:

I'm willing to bet they go on the 2nd row center and end terminal closest to the connected yellow... :happyyes:


Being a switch, to which of the two doesn't really matter, but I'd say red on center.

How is it the wires became disconnected? Are they quick disconnects, solder, etc.? Any signs of the terminals formerly being connected?

The wires were quick (spade connectors) disconnects. I had to remove the connecting plate to get room to get out a broken seal tight connector. These two wires were shorter than the rest and just came loose before I could see where they went.

You would be the winner if this were a contest, except the wire turned out to be brown instead of red. I suppose you could call it a rusty red brown.

Anyway, I called and talked to a guy in the service dept of the mfg. He was kind enough to email me the wiring diagram. My new "smart phone" has just paid for its self as I was able to get the email on my phone.:thumbsup:

Here is the diagram:

 

[Smart $]

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You would be the winner if this were a contest, except the wire turned out to be brown instead of red. I suppose you could call it a rusty red brown.

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Actually I was wrong according to the diagram... can I still be a would-be winner

 

[GoldDigger]

Actually I was wrong according to the diagram... can I still be a would-be winner

We were all wrong because of the incorrect information that Little Bill gave us. Clearly it was a run capacitor rather than a start capacitor, and that must have made all the difference. :angel:

So, all bets are off, no winners and no losers, right? Except for Little Bill that is.

 

[Little Bill]

Actually I was wrong according to the diagram... can I still be a would-be winner

Yeah, I re-read what you said and must have thought you were right as that's how I thought it should go to.
But sure, you can still be a would-be-winner, and I have an almost-prize for you!

We were all wrong because of the incorrect information that Little Bill gave us. Clearly it was a run capacitor rather than a start capacitor, and that must have made all the difference. :angel:

So, all bets are off, no winners and no losers, right? Except for Little Bill that is.

I said "I assume it's a start capacitor"!