Neutral Calculations

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mavrck

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I'm working on figuring a neutral calculation for a 120/208 volt 400 amp feeder. I have looked through the code , but i think i have confused myself more than any thing. Does #3 neutral sound correct? I'm pulling 500 kcmil to the Sub panel and #3 just seems small . Thx
 

augie47

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The neutral will have to be sized to carry the load but the minimum would be a #3 Cu See 215.2(A)(2)
 

mavrck

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So I’m little confused. I understand you have to figure you loads for the neutral but why wouldn’t you just use this table if that works? I think that’s my confusion.
And does any wye connected neutral have be sized the same as the ungrounded conductors or is it only the 3 wire getting fed from a wye. 220.61c1
 

infinity

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We very rarely see reduced size neutrals in feeder conductors for panels but they are permitted. As Augie stated the neutral is sized based on the calculated neutral load but cannot be smaller than in your case #3 AWG.

And does any wye connected neutral have be sized the same as the ungrounded conductors or is it only the 3 wire getting fed from a wye. 220.61c1

Because in that 3-wire circuit the neutral can carry current equal to that of the ungrounded conductors.
 

Dennis Alwon

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Is it best practice to size neutral same as feeder conductors if load is unknown

Yes that would be the case. In residential it is common to see the neutral sized one size down from the hot conductors because there are usually many 240 volt circuits without, or with limited use, neutral current.
 

infinity

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Is it best practice to size neutral same as feeder conductors if load is unknown
IMO yes unless unknown means that there is no neutral load at all and just a feeder to a panel. Then you could use the minimum size.
 

mavrck

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No I’m just referring to installing a sub panel in commercial/ residential applications and loads could vary depending on equipment change over time. I know that doesn’t really apply to residential
 

don_resqcapt19

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You need to look at the 120 volt loads to do the neutral calculation. The more 120 volt loads you have on a single phase, the larger the neutral has to be.
 

mavrck

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Got it. Thank you for the help, sometimes I get to questioning myself after reading so much . I was on the right page .
 
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